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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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Default P28 on B18c1??

does everyoen use this ecu for their gsr swaps? i know it has to be chipped, but can i just buy a chip for my current 94 gsr ecu? are chips hard to install to? i just need some info on upgrading my 94 ecu for my swap, thanks
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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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What year is the car you're putting the motor into?
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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 02:43 PM
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well it does disable the 2ndarys into a single runner system, & knock sensor

obd-1 p28 and p72 so keep the p72 and reprogram it, same job is done to the p28
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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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Default Re: P28 on B18c1?? (Jdmb18c)

I'm using this ecu right now. Basically, there is no low end torque. But up high in the power band, the ecu works fine.
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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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the ecu is on a 94 gsr motor, i have the 94 gsr ecu right now, how hard is it to install a chip btw has anyone done it?
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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 07:33 PM
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You gotta do some soddering and stuff. If you don't know how to do it, I suggest not ruining a perfectly good ecu. Just spend the $100-150 and get it done by someone who knows what's up.
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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 09:45 PM
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Default Re: P28 on B18c1?? (hybrider93)

well it does disable the 2ndarys into a single runner system, & knock sensor

obd-1 p28 and p72 so keep the p72 and reprogram it, same job is done to the p28
If u do use the P28 on a B18C u better get the skunk2 intake manifold b/c re-chipped ECUs don't have a control for the secondary butterflys for the intake manifold which leaves them open all the time---which from what I hear isn't good.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 12:51 AM
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i dont see the point of reprogramming the p72 if your going to use the stock GS-R im, or so i think...is there like an activation switch for them? someone fill me in on what happens to the 2ndarys if you chip both the p72 or p28? are they left open? and are ment for use with a single runner IM?

as for the 2ndarys, leaving em open KILLS your low end trq, trust me, rolling around like that (before i installed the IAB system, just woke up one day and wasnt lazy) suck0red bad
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 04:17 AM
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Nothing happens to the secondaries on that P72. They will open and close as normal. The P28; however, doesn't have anything to control the secondary butterfly in the first place (which is why it always stays open *not good). So chipping is not what eliminates the secondaries.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 06:31 AM
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Default Re: P28 on B18c1?? (hybridreams)

Any suggestions on who to chip the p72?
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 06:42 AM
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Default Re: P28 on B18c1?? (VTECivic2K)

Are you planning on getting the Skunk2 IM? If so, I'd go with the P28 instead.
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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 09:58 PM
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Default Re: P28 on B18c1?? (hybridreams)

if planning on using the stock IM for a while, would one be able to get a p72 shipped to specs?
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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 11:05 PM
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i will be puting in a skunk 2 im, itr cams, and valve springs in this weekend, so i will need a different ecu right?
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 08:56 AM
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You don't have to but what the hell...why not?
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 09:11 AM
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Default Re: P28 on B18c1?? (hybridreams)

So chipping is not what eliminates the secondaries.
Yes it is, since no custom progs have the secondary control.. (at least the ones widely available to us here)
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 09:53 AM
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Default Re: P28 on B18c1?? (HKxBlur)

you do not need the secondaries, you can chip your P72 with Mugen or even Skunk2 program
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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 12:41 AM
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Default Re: P28 on B18c1?? (eg6ajk)

so i should just chip my current ecu, or should i pick up a chipped p28?
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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 01:10 AM
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correct me if im wrong

now i currently have 2 ecus, one is a p28 being re progged with the mugen program, thus no 2ndarys and ideal for a single runner IM on the b18c

now if i had chipped the p72 with the mugen program i would still be using the 2ndarys correct? or does this program eliminate the use of the 2ndarys regardless?


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Old Mar 3, 2002 | 06:34 AM
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Default Re: P28 on B18c1?? (hybrider93)

Eliminates.
"P72's cam be chipped to run same program as P28."
- http://www.jdmhondaparts.com/ecu_faq.htm


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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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Default Re: P28 on B18c1?? (hybrider93)

or does this program eliminate the use of the 2ndarys regardless?
yah regardless of the ecu, the progs written for the p28 (can be used on p72) will always get rid of the secondaries, since you are overwriting all existing data.. I know of no prog offered that uses the secondaries, I'm assuming since most race setups in Japan are using the b16a/b or b18c5, using the single runner manifold..
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 11:39 AM
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Default Re: P28 on B18c1?? (HKxBlur)

Am I missing something here??? You've got a b18C1, and a P72 ecu... and you're running the stock intake manifild...

So why are you talking about switching ecu's or chipping anything? Just run what you've got. People are running chipped P28's because (for the most part) they didn't have the P72 to start with and a chipped P28 is cheaper than a P72.

Also, unless you're switching to an aftermarket intake manifold, you do NOT want to disable the secondary runner control.
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 12:01 PM
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People are running chipped P28's because (for the most part) they didn't have the P72 to start with and a chipped P28 is cheaper than a P72.
My god...it's like...he knows me...

EDIT: That is VERY true. You DO NOT want to eliminate the secondary controls on an ECU using a dual butterfly intake manifold.


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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 12:03 AM
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Default Re: P28 on B18c1?? (hybridreams)

i have a skunk2 intake manifold, so i am running single, should i still use my stock ecu and get it chipped or pick up a chipped p28? please help with my quesiton, u guys still havnet answered it, thanks, and what program wuold be best, i am running jdm itr cams, springs, retainers, minor port and polish, milled head, skunk2 manifold, i/h/e
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 07:46 AM
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Since you already have the setup, I suggest you take it to Skunk2 and bring up the redline/vtec crossover. Or jdmhondaparts.com; their FF.Special.1 is the same ****. No need to get the P28, stick with your P72 and get it chipped.
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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aright sounds cool, thanks
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