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CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm?

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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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1995 Del Sol VTEC (b16a inside, stock usdm P30) and a GSR tranny

I get a CEL when i ALMOST redline in 3rd, i'd say i hit about 7,900 rpm (i know the tach is off, but i know for a fact i did not redline). i also noticed it goes off when i go around 6,000 RPM in 4th gear. Whenever i get the CEL, i just turn the car off and turn it back on and the CEL disappears, so i can't check for codes

Another thing i noticed while in 4th gear when the CEL went off was this winding noise, it was like a bearing spinning really fast. that's what triggered me to look at my gauge and see the CEL on.

Any help would be appreciated. thanks all
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:22 PM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (Advan06)

Here's a cool pic of my gauge cluster! i know you all like pics

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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (Advan06)

Dont shut off the car and pull the code while the car is still running.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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will do, now i have to top out on third again
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (Advan06)

i had the same thing happening to me....it was the tps sensor....at high rpm ....it would give the wrong voltage...adjust or change it
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 12:59 AM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (krazySOHC)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by krazySOHC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had the same thing happening to me....it was the tps sensor....at high rpm ....it would give the wrong voltage...adjust or change it</TD></TR></TABLE>

doesnt happen just at high RPM
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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anything else before i hit some m4D 3Rd G3Ar vT4K?!!??!
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (Advan06)

this happens to me except it stays on after i almost redline 3rd
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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i feel so nub... i cant find my plug under the glove box to check CELs
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (Advan06)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Advan06 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i feel so nub... i cant find my plug under the glove box to check CELs </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ha, i was about to suggest that. but anyways, your ecu will store whatever CEL your car has until you reset the ecu, so the CEL does not necessarily have to be on to check it.

The plug isn't exactly under the glovebox. It should be near the ecu, so you might have to pull the carpet back a little bit. If you have not touched your ecu ever, the plug might still be plugged into the neon green plug holder. So try to look in that area, then do the old paper clip trick.

James
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (Jedi_Sol)

so i found out it is code 22...

VTEC pressure valve
VTEC pressure valve
VTEC pressure valve
VTEC pressure valve
VTEC pressure valve

THE ****??!!?! searched it up and so far no one knows how to fix it...
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (Advan06)

I do.

Replace your vtec solenoid.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (jlacoy82)

hows your oil? whens the last time u changed it?
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (93ejay1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlacoy82 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do.

Replace your vtec solenoid.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i suppose i'll do that eventually, since that seems to be the most expensive route

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93ejay1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hows your oil? whens the last time u changed it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

oil was changed about 2 months ago? if not earlier... only 1k miles on it. and oil level is FULL, i check it all the time since i do work at jiffy lube
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (Advan06)

Pull the vtec solenoid off, and check the filter screen on the gasket. I bet you'll find it clogged with metal shavings.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (jlacoy82)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlacoy82 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do.

Replace your vtec solenoid.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not necessarily, first check the connection at the ECU and at the solenoid, and also for any breaks in the wire. Make sure the pin is totally seated in the ECU plug.

There is also a way to check if the solenoid clicks(working) or doesnt.
Also there is a screen that needs to be clear, otherwise it blocks the necessary oil pressure. buy a manual, check all these things,if it all checks out, then go buy a VTEC solenoid.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (b18cKoupe)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlacoy82 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pull the vtec solenoid off, and check the filter screen on the gasket. I bet you'll find it clogged with metal shavings.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what would those shavings be from?
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Default Re: CEL at 3rd gear 8,000rpm or 4th gear 6000+ rpm? (Advan06)

Metal shavings come from metal.

I dont know, I just know I've read that several times here, people pulling their solenoid and finding the filter screen clogged. Buy another gasket from Honda for 3-5 dollars, or clean off and reuse the old one.
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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check your intake air temperature sensor..its white plug on your intake manifold..pull it out and check it for burns or if its melted to hell..
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1SickEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check your intake air temperature sensor..its white plug on your intake manifold..pull it out and check it for burns or if its melted to hell..</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, i'll check that too.

Thanks to everyone who has helped out
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