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Old May 2, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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in this picture, the barbs you need to use to loop the ps lines, i undestand that the actual barb size only matters on what size hose you use, but who knows what size the threading is that goes into the steering rack?

id like to know so i can buy the barbs before i take everything apart. that way im not running around looking for the right size threading on barb fittings in various hardware stores while my car is sitting in the garage up on jackstands


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Old May 2, 2005 | 11:29 PM
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Eh...I just cut off the stock lines leaving enough left to put a hose and hose clamps on there. Works fine...
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Old May 3, 2005 | 04:16 AM
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Im hoping to do this soon. How long of a project is this? My buddy did this to his DA with a b20z and his steering is not much different from when he had PS.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 04:40 AM
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subscribing. cuz i wanna know too
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Old May 3, 2005 | 04:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Eh...I just cut off the stock lines leaving enough left to put a hose and hose clamps on there. Works fine... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly what I did...
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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can anyone outline the benefits of this?

is this what you do when you remove the p/s?

my wheel is hard enough to turn as is, but i've been considering not putting it back in when i swap my motor
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Old May 3, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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thanks guys im just gonna do what you did then, what size hose you use on the stock lines then?
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Old May 3, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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is it necessary for the intake manifold to come out for this? or can you do it from the bottom (i have access to a lift... )
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Old May 3, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crdcz03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it necessary for the intake manifold to come out for this? or can you do it from the bottom (i have access to a lift... )</TD></TR></TABLE>

You could but it is on the top of the steering rack so you have to really know what you're working with cause you can't see it that well...
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Old May 3, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sam1am26 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You could but it is on the top of the steering rack so you have to really know what you're working with cause you can't see it that well...</TD></TR></TABLE>

ahh ok... maybe that will give me a reason to get a stock intake manifold and sell this pos s2 mani
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Old May 3, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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instead of looping the lines, i ran a "T" into a resovoir.
you can do it without taking the int. mani. off but it helps if you have skinny arms.
i wish that i would of pulled the p/s off a long time ago. it feels a lot better. its as if all this time i had been having sex with 10 jimmy hats, and now no jimmy hats. i can feel everything and i love it.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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aries, got any pics of what lines need to be looped?

i was under the car and i pulled a shield off the bottom and it exposed 4 lines goign into the rack in the same spot. do i just loop these four into pairs?
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Old May 3, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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sorry, i'll try to snap some pics but i think you can cap the 2 lines that go to the VSS and just loop the lines that went to the p/s pump.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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bump for some info, ltos of threads about this in the archives but none have REAL SPECIFIC info
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Old May 5, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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Old May 5, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bb4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">aries, got any pics of what lines need to be looped?

i was under the car and i pulled a shield off the bottom and it exposed 4 lines goign into the rack in the same spot. do i just loop these four into pairs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Follow the 4 lines... 2 of them are for the VSS(loop them)... and the other two are for the pump/cooler/resevoir(loop them)... In the pic I posted above you can see I just looped them from above, but you can do it from below too...
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Old May 5, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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ah ok, thanks man, you had me confused because of where you looped the lines
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Old May 5, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .ptikal_blitz:. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can anyone outline the benefits of this?

is this what you do when you remove the p/s?
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can someone answer this? it's like this is what's been hinted at, but does looping the line act as a p/s pump, so i could take mine out and use this instead?
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Old May 5, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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no it does not act as a ps pump, it is simply to jsut clean up the engine bay by removing all the lines and the ps pump and for light weight savings.

if you do this your car will not have ps and it will be harder to turn.

i have had the ps belt removed for more than a year now and i only asked this question because i like the car much better without power steering and i jsut wanted to remove all the ps stuff that is useless to me now.
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Old May 5, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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for daily drivers we ought to get electric ps pumps....you will get sick of turning the wheel with both hands to park and move at less than 20mph......it sucks

i was in the process of making a ps pump with a clutched pulley like the ac, i just need to get a machine shop to make one peice and its done....
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Old May 5, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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I've heard that if you loop the lines and run some kind if breather filter
it works really well, almost like you still have PS
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Old May 5, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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here's a pic of it and the thread


https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1158331
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Old May 6, 2005 | 03:02 AM
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yeah i talked to that guy......i said on a scale of one to ten, one being normal, and ten being how it feels with just the belt off, how does that setup feel, he told me it was like a 7....

so its not terrible, but parking and low speed maneuvering is a two hand job with that....

besides, thats something that you dont want to go back and put to stock if you dont like it, its a good bit of work to do that......
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Old May 6, 2005 | 05:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .ptikal_blitz:. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can anyone outline the benefits of this?
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No one seems to want to answer this so I gues I will.

Benefits are: Less weight, less engine drag, more aware of steering (aka, "no more sex with jimmy hats"), one less thing to deal with when working on your car.
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Old May 8, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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so if you were not to loop the ps ...the steering would be a real b*tch right.
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