Hey guys, well today was the day I took the R to the dyno for some numbers. I had them install an Apexi SAFC-II and tune it to the car. The tuning went well but neither me or the tuner could figure out what happened between 4k RPM and 6k. He said nothing was coming up on the computer. After a few pulls, he pulled the spark plugs (which I just replaced with stock NGK's about 3 weeks ago) and he regapped them to see if this would help. Did smoothen it out a little bit but there's still something strange I think. Hoping you guys could give me some suggestions or is this normal?? Anyway, to the good stuff, graph, pics and a vid! Gimme da feedback


Mods (basically a stock Type R) :
SMSP Header
Carsound Cat
SMSP Exhaust
AEM Cold Air Intake
Advanced Timing







and heres the vid for those wanting to hear SMSP header and exhaust with a cat and 22" resonator ( sorry for the nightvision!!!)

http://members.aol.com/omegafei/MOV00801.MPG

 

safcII cannot tune the vtec crossover and there lies your problem.

 

i was wondering also and thought it was a typo...

why did you buy an SAFC? and not a VAFC?

 

If your guy that you brought the car to tune has done any hondas before he would have known about VAFC and not SAFC

I also bet that if you get a vafc and change tuners you will find more power.

 

have them at least print out the SAE corrected numbers...

 

wow. none the less, that's some pretty good numbers. Get hondata and make that sucker a monster.

how did you get a hold of an smsp header?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by firstclassjdm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow. none the less, that's some pretty good numbers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

means nothing without a sameday baseline dyno run of his car b4 the header and catback was install

 

I bought the SAFC-II used off a friend thats why I got it. I was only interested in fuel tuning because the car was running too lean so I thought that would correct the problem, didn't know that it wouldn't tune the vtec crossover got the header new about 2-4 months ago

 

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Regardless, 186/131 is nice to have even with out proper tuning.

I would not mind having those #s

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Regardless, 186/131 is nice to have even with out proper tuning.

I would not mind having those #s </TD></TR></TABLE>

what good is it?

you still would not know what is it exactly that you have

 

it's uncorrected though..

still not bad though.. SMSP makes some nice stuff..

 

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Regardless, 186/131 is nice to have even with out proper tuning.

I would not mind having those #s </TD></TR></TABLE>

j00 have fun with that, peak-number-boi.

 

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what good is it?

you still would not know what is it exactly that you have</TD></TR></TABLE>

The average numbers for stock type Rs are what...150-165 ish...give or take? That's 20hp above stock. Regardless, that's still pretty good numbers. Some motors with built head and cams will make only as much. 186/131 with no real tuning is good in my book. That's a good amount of torque coming from that block also.

 

i give up

 

haha...

 

Do you guys think it would be worth it to go through all the trouble to take out the SAFC and put in a VAFC and retune all over again? And how much more power would I gain?

 

If the numbers are uncorrected they're impossible to compare.

 

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Nah, i think it was a dynapack....pls ignore the banner or the printed results....

 

I think it would be worth it to sell the safc and put that money towards a hondata unit.

If that's not the route you want, then I think its worth it still to switch it out for the vafc. I imagine the wiring is similar although I have not installed an safc before. Get the vafc and fix your midrange a little bit.

 

well I hope to get my Hytech and 2.5in exhaust on soon and hit the dyno for the first time...finally get to see what this Power FC can do for me..

 

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Worth it, probably...
Gain more power maybe, but making it smoother would be nice.

 

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yeah!. let's get that hytech header on the dyno also. You guys sure know how to put your Type Rs to good use. I hate seeing Type R's with sh*tty products that just ruins the car. Keep up the good work.

 

buy cam gears, that might help too. if your graph was in sae instead of std, i think you might be looking at 180-181 whp instead of 186.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SwiftTypeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">buy cam gears, that might help too. if your graph was in sae instead of std, i think you might be looking at 180-181 whp instead of 186.</TD></TR></TABLE>


ugh....how would you know? it could be 195 corrected for all we know.

again, before and after would be most useful.

 

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Worth it, probably...

making it smoother would be nice.
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