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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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Default Rotor over hub coversion done!!!

I hope it's useful for someone!

Finely I have some normal brake disks!

Here it is how it was in origin.


Here is what you need for the conversion:
2 Acura CL hubs
2 Accord bearings.
2 282mm disks




First thing to do is to take out your old hub over rotor asembly.




Press the new hub and bearing together.



Fit the new hub assembly on your upright.


Fit the disk, the calipper and the game is over!





Modified by Daniel M. at 7:52 PM 2/25/2005
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 05:53 AM
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yes that helps alot thanks
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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Damn, wish I would have known this when I did my brakes..... Looks like I might be doing my brakes again this summer. Great post!!!!!
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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im really gonna think about doing this so much easier to change brakes
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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sorry for being a n00b but whats the benifts for this conversion?
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teamsonik &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry for being a n00b but whats the benifts for this conversion?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No need to take hours to change a set of disks and you dont risk opening the bearing while doing it.

It may be quite costly at the begining, but think how much money you will spend less in labour.

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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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i plan on doing this as well.

excellent long term benefits for the DIY'er.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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not to be nebby, but how much did this all cost you???
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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I know this isn't related to the conversion, but while you are in there, get some prelude half-shafts! I've heard they are a lot stronger than accord's half-shaft and are good for turbo or motor build up projects.

I alson like to know how much it cost to convert....

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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by supercreed2002 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know this isn't related to the conversion, but while you are in there, get some prelude half-shafts! I've heard they are a lot stronger than accord's half-shaft and are good for turbo or motor build up projects.

I alson like to know how much it cost to convert....

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What do you meen by half-shafts?
A Prelude axel won't fit because it's longer.
The Prelude cv inner joint will fit with no problems, the outer joint will have to be grinded a little to fit on a Accord because there is a little part that will touch the bolts that hold the bearings.
I have allready Prelude's cv joints.

The cost for me that I live in Italy was a little high since I had to make the Acura hubs come from the US.
Also in the US you have way cheeper prices on the parts than in Italy!

I payed about 400$ for hubs and bearings. The US prices are less than half!!!
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 01:34 AM
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do the 98-02 Accord 4 Cylinders also have the same HUB as the CL???
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 01:02 PM
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need to do this conversion in the spring for sure. if you want more info on how to do this conversion you can get to cb7tuner.com
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daniel M. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What do you meen by half-shafts?
A Prelude axel won't fit because it's longer.
The Prelude cv inner joint will fit with no problems, the outer joint will have to be grinded a little to fit on a Accord because there is a little part that will touch the bolts that hold the bearings.
I have allready Prelude's cv joints.

The cost for me that I live in Italy was a little high since I had to make the Acura hubs come from the US.
Also in the US you have way cheeper prices on the parts than in Italy!

I payed about 400$ for hubs and bearings. The US prices are less than half!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>


Well, I hear that you can buy a prelude half-shaft for your accord. The half-shaft meaning the shaft from the tranny to the hub, but I could be wrong. Also, how do you know what year acura cars to get parts from? I have a 1992 Honda Accord Ex with a 2.2L F22A6 and 5-Speed tranny.

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by supercreed2002 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well, I hear that you can buy a prelude half-shaft for your accord. The half-shaft meaning the shaft from the tranny to the hub, but I could be wrong. Also, how do you know what year acura cars to get parts from? I have a 1992 Honda Accord Ex with a 2.2L F22A6 and 5-Speed tranny.

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Ok!
When I did my H22 swap, I tried to fit the Prelude shafts, but they are to long and won't fit.

For the Acura parts, you can just give the part n° of the hub and order the bering for your Accord.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 12:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D21X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do the 98-02 Accord 4 Cylinders also have the same HUB as the CL???</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, it's differnt.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daniel M. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
For the Acura parts, you can just give the part n° of the hub and order the bering for your Accord. </TD></TR></TABLE>


So getting parts from any year acura will work fine then? Will I need to get new bearing too?

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by supercreed2002 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So getting parts from any year acura will work fine then? Will I need to get new bearing too?
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Just give them this part N°


They will find out for what car it is.

Yes, you will need a new bearing.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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May I ask for what reason I'll need a new bearing for?? Is it something I'll need to change for size and fit purposes? Or for the sake of going through all this trouble sorta thing?

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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don't you need a hydraulic press to press the hub on the bearing ?
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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it cost about 200 for the whole setup

i looked into it you can get all you parts here but you can also go to the junk yard

http://www.tasautoparts.com

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by supercreed2002 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">May I ask for what reason I'll need a new bearing for?? Is it something I'll need to change for size and fit purposes? Or for the sake of going through all this trouble sorta thing?
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You need a new bearing because the old one is pressed with the old hub.
If you try to take your hub out, you will break the bearing.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AccidentproWn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don't you need a hydraulic press to press the hub on the bearing ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, you need a press.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daniel M. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You need a new bearing because the old one is pressed with the old hub.
If you try to take your hub out, you will break the bearing.</TD></TR></TABLE>


That sucks, because I just replaced a bearing on one side of the car with a brand new one! Surely the new onw will be reuseble, right??

Caleb
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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are you talking about the bearing being pressed out with a press or the hub... I have found that a slide hammer works greak for popping off the hub... takes wayyy less time... but excellent write up! may try it this summer
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jagged4698 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you talking about the bearing being pressed out with a press or the hub... I have found that a slide hammer works greak for popping off the hub... takes wayyy less time... but excellent write up! may try it this summer </TD></TR></TABLE>

You need a press too press the new hub in the new bearing.

As you can see from my pics, I just unbolted the old bearing without pessing the hub out.
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