I was debating whether or not if was worth the extra money for slotted rotors. Most people claim that it disperses and cleans pads giving you a better bite. Is this necessarily true? I found a whole setup on ebay for front and rear brembo slotted rotors with axxis metal masters and stainless steel lines for $389.00. Seems like a pretty good deal to me. Whats your guys input on this?

 

Slotted rotor do give you more grip, but the downside would be the rotor and pad life.

if brembo blank not doing it for you, get some slotted instead of drilled, drilled rotor are prone to crack, which happens way too often.

 

Basically my main concern is warping. A few of my rotors are warped and instead of having them flipped over I prefer something thats better and more realiable and less prone to warpage. So are you saying that slotted rotors will give me more but but decrease rotor and pad life. By how much???

 

generially speaking? about 10-15Percent, less if you don't drive on the track.
which is acceptable, but that's just a general guess. of course, you'll get a better grip with a semi-metallic pad but you'll giving up the durablilty and noise factor. axxis' pad is really good from most of the guys that uses them. to be honest, i am about to order a set of ultimate stree for my car once the pads on my car are done. to give you a better picture, i drive my car on street most of the time, 3-4 times a year i will bring it to a local track(street of willow)


but the thing is, if your car will never or rarely bring to the race track/autocross, brembo blank is your best friend. slot/drilled rotor wouldn't give your more propection again warpage.

tell me more about the warpage? Front? rear?

 

one more note, drilled/slotted rotor CAN be turn and surface.

some place wouldn't do it because it's more hassle for the work, but speaking of experience it can be turn and surface just like a regular blank rotor


edit: the slot wouldn't clean your pad, the beauty of disc brake is the ventaliation, self adjusting and self cleaning.

 

Im pretty sure its coming from the front since thats where most of the braking power is going to. Car shakes when slowing down from highway speeds. The steering wheel sometime shakes violently at higher speeds. Alignment and all that stuff is good on the car. Slower speeds the car seems fine. Im not sure whens the last time the rotors got turned over or replaced so I think its time for a new set. As for the brake pads which would be better for street use. Metal masters?? I want low dust, good braking and pad life....

 

i am not really sure about the shaking, but it sounds like a warpped rotor to me.
it could be alot of thing that cause it to do so.

is the metal master full or semi metallic?
neither one will give you that low dust, low noise and long rotor/pad life tho'
(stock brake pad would do that but i dont think you wouldn't be satisty with the friction material they used)

might want to look into EBC green or axxis ultimate street.
they are some what less noisey and low dust when comparing to other aftermarket pad.


and to give you more reading material/opinion.

go to accordinglydone.com
they got a really nice brake info section for accord.

 

Does anyone make larger than oem size rotor but still be a like a brembo blank rotor?
I heard that the axxis ultimates have shorter pad life and are more for street racing and autocross. Is there much difference between metal master and ultimates as far as braking?

 

I was looking into brakes all day, get brembo blank rotors, drilled and slotted wear you pads and warp. Get the braided lines and axxis pads are a good choice, I might recommend just using ceramic pads from your local carparts store for like 40 bucks per set.

 

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yes at the link below they have a 10'' to 11'' upgrade kit that comes with steel lines caliper brackets and the bigger rotors. But you will lose some accel from the bigger rotors due to the fact taht you will have more mass further away from teh center of the wheel hub. http://www.secureleadercom.com...block

 

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do a search on "wagon rotors" or "v6 rotors" and you should find threads on swapping in 94-97 wagon / v6 accord rotors.

 

I was actually looking at oem like rotors but just bigger. I know they make the larger brake kits such as the aem and gran turisimo one. Thanks for the help though....

 

i just got a full set of brembo blanks and axxis ulta. all the way around. I love them. i got them from a sponsor here with lowest price on brembos. they work well

 

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how much you got them shipped by the way, if you don't mind me asking

&lt;--getting pad and rotor soon

 

If you go to the performance forum market area import rp has some brembo blank rotors really cheap. I was quoted $220 shipped with the same setup shipped all the way to New Hampshire. Go here for some great prices: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=831188

Im gona be ordering from them soon.....

 

I had some Slotted/Dimpled Rotors on my old car, w/ a set of EBC Greenstuff Pads. They worked awesome, just didn't exactly last too long

 

Haha.

Slotted rotors offer no better braking than Brembo blanks, its almost a mind game for people that use them as daily drivers, they think they have better braking with their pimpy new rotors because they are told they are supposed to

Slotted rotors offered no better stopping power on our race car and as a matter of fact made us eat through pads twice as fast

get some Brembo blanks and a decent set of brake pads, talk to Andie over at Cobaltfriction, he has never steered us wrong

 

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the metal masters stop really well but they SQUEAL like crazy. I can't wait for the spring time, I'm switching pads just because of the squealing...

 

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Slotted rotors offer no better braking than Brembo blanks, its almost a mind game for people that use them as daily drivers, they think they have better braking with their pimpy new rotors because they are told they are supposed to

Slotted rotors offered no better stopping power on our race car and as a matter of fact made us eat through pads twice as fast

get some Brembo blanks and a decent set of brake pads, talk to Andie over at Cobaltfriction, he has never steered us wrong</TD></TR></TABLE>

True. For daily driving. Not sure what the problem with your race car is but maybe the rotors/pads were'nt the best. Any how the point of slotted rotors is not for better stopping power. Its to reduce brake fade. As you drive and brake You create a small gas cloud between the rotor and pad. this cloud is copmposed of the brake friction material or brake dust and heat. The slots are there for evacuating this gas and to allow for better pad to rotor contact. The drilled part is also for evacuating this gas and to help reduce heat. This is why you see these rotors on many F1 cars and evevn JGTC cars. They are also factory rotors on many high performance cars such as porsche and ferrari.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cb7-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">True. For daily driving. Not sure what the problem with your race car is but maybe the rotors/pads were'nt the best. Any how the point of slotted rotors is not for better stopping power. Its to reduce brake fade. As you drive and brake You create a small gas cloud between the rotor and pad. this cloud is copmposed of the brake friction material or brake dust and heat. The slots are there for evacuating this gas and to allow for better pad to rotor contact. The drilled part is also for evacuating this gas and to help reduce heat. This is why you see these rotors on many F1 cars and evevn JGTC cars. They are also factory rotors on many high performance cars such as porsche and ferrari.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That gas story is soooooo OLD now. That's only back in the days when they had that gas cloud form. With todays tech there are no more gas clouds that form. I still wonder why the higher end sports cars use slotted/drilled even though blanks are just as good.

 

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That gas story is soooooo OLD now. That's only back in the days when they had that gas cloud form. With todays tech there are no more gas clouds that form. I still wonder why the higher end sports cars use slotted/drilled even though blanks are just as good. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No sir it is not gone. Thats one of the reasons why brake fade still exists today. That is also the reason why slotted rotors are STILL used on race cars and high performance factory cars.

 

slotted/dimpled/drilled rotors are just bling. Will not change your performance over brembo blanks.

The vibration is your rotors warped. You can get the resurfaced... cheapest way.

Pads will go a long way towards increasing your stopping performance. and there is a trade off there too... if you want pads for the street, you don't need racing pads. they are not gonna operate at cold daily driver temps anyway, and prolly get you killed if it is cold out when you start.

for a daily driver, if you are finding the need to use racing pads, you should probably reconsider the responsibilities of driving on public roads.

 

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for a daily driver, if you are finding the need to use racing pads, you should probably reconsider the responsibilities of driving on public roads.</TD></TR></TABLE>

edit....


Modified by hondaracin24 at 7:02 PM 2/4/2005

 

One a street car (meaning drive to work, the store, etc.) NO Difference.

 

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brake fade is not caused from gas....the gas byproduct has been long solved...it's no longer a major issue with current pads

brake fade is caused from too much heat and the pads glazing over...drilled rotors keep the brake system coolor....slotted ones will do the same and keep a clean contact surface between the brakes

drilled rotors also stop the car faster in water as it allows a clean surface between pads and rotors

bottom line: YOU DO NOT NEED SLOTTED OR DRILLED AT YOUR LEVEL (IF ANY) OF COMPETITION