johnzm

a big thanks to mainstream performance for letting me use the dyno jet !
http://www.mainstreamperformance.com


i have a mildly built b16 with
JDM DC 4-1
2 layer headgasket
toda flywheel
custom 2.5 inch exhaust
custom ROCKET chip

everything else is stock






the blue line is GSR cams, the red line is b16 1st gen cams

i use a wideband on the street, so the a/f was dialed in right when we hit the dyno on the 1st gen cams

i swapped to the GSr cams on the dyno and proceeded to lay down 146 whp untuned. the AFR's remained close to the same as with the b16 cams, and with a little tuning, i managed to get 148whp out of it with a 12.5:1 AFR. anything above that would start to loose power, and i tried AFR from 12.5 all the way to 15:1.
as you can see mainly the top end suffered on the GSr cams, while the bottom end was a hair stronger.


any comments are welcome. i think i could have gotten a little more out of the b16 cams with more tuning, once i noticed i was getitng whp out of running richer on the GSR cams







Modified by johnzm at 7:35 PM 1/13/2005

0VtecKiDD

hmmmm, very interesting, i would have figured slightly higher numbers from newer GSR cams vs 1st gen B16 camshafts. GOOD numbers on your B16 though IMO considering cars with similar mods i have seen make 135-140

johnzm

redy to race?


there will also be a IM manifold test coming up soon!@

0VtecKiDD

CRX>CIVIC anyday, even when you had your built GSR, you know i cant lose, if i do, ill be the worst roomate you ever had

Deetz

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You should do the 2nd gen B16 manifold against both itr and the 1st gen B16 ones. A lot of people have mixed feelings about the subject to which makes the best powerband.

97L-esVeeTeg

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You should do the 2nd gen B16 manifold against both itr and the 1st gen B16 ones. A lot of people have mixed feelings about the subject to which makes the best powerband.

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johnzm

if anyone local can provide them for me, ill test them!

at the moment its going to be a 1st gen mani Vs a AEBS

0VtecKiDD

cmon man you know your roomate has got the hook up BEYOTCH, i got one for you buddy

RobbieG35

I may can get an ITR mani. for you to use

johnzm

PM me and we can see what we can do

Rocket

Go Murph!

You need a better intake pipe.

0VtecKiDD

ZANE IS THE MAN!!!

el arbi

Interesting.

johnzm

i know rocket, i need to do a battery relocation to get anything worth while in there...


itl happen soon.

green91

looks good as always good numbers! ill give u a hand with a battery relo if u want. see ya round

89s1

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You should do the 2nd gen B16 manifold against both itr and the 1st gen B16 ones. A lot of people have mixed feelings about the subject to which makes the best powerband.

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that would be incredible.

Nice numbers man.
I like seeing stockish b16 dynos, i can't wait for the day i get to dyno mine

WAFFLES

Neato test. When I had auto B16 cams and a stock manifold I was making peak power at about 7100rpm.

I see you have that weird "b16tq curve" down from 3000-5000rpm. Mine does the same from 3500-4500rpm.

johnzm

PM me if u got an AIR manifold layin around. i would LOVE to dyno it against an AEBS!!

johnzm

TTT

lookin for manifolds to borrow!

Black R

.....post the a/f graphs.

Those will show the supposed delta's.

What size injectors?

johnzm

AFR will take a minute. i got them saved on the datalogger.

they got mildly richer on the GSr cams, and kep0t gainaing power all the way down to 12.5:1

Rocket

I'll make you a new chip.

Your not getting enough fuel after 7200 rpms.

MikeySpec

Im loving the blue bomber black bumper special. Total hotness! Good job

Black R

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you retard. the hood is open. you can mount any sort of intake up and lay it in the engine bay for dyno purposes.

johnzm

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you retard. the hood is open. you can mount any sort of intake up and lay it in the engine bay for dyno purposes. </TD></TR></TABLE>

u must be a JDM h8tr, cause that intake came on my JDM b16

i had a fan blowing into the engine bay and one blowing into the radiator.

IAT's were no factor in the #'s