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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 10:28 AM
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Default How to Remove the Charcoal Canister?

Emissions stuff is not needed on a race car, but I do not see where all the lines are coming and going. How do you remove this canister and what do you need to do?
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 10:50 AM
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Are you sure the Improved Vintage rule ***** will even let you remove the thing?
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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The way I read the rule book any emissions items may be removed. If you ask me this is a emissions item, no?
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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I took mine out in ITA..
http://www.want2race.net/racecar/howto/

then chose emissions
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Want2race &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Side note- Dont throw away the map sensor. you need to keep that!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Heh, I remember the thread on that from IT.com. Funny stuff (something I would have done).
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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I am missing something? What does the map sensor have to do with the charcoal canister? Does one of the vacuum lines connect to the sensor?
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECAcuraGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am missing something? What does the map sensor have to do with the charcoal canister? Does one of the vacuum lines connect to the sensor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mechanically the two don't interact. However, all of the solinoids are on the same bracket so you can't just remove the whole braket.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by travis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Mechanically the two don't interact. However, all of the solinoids are on the same bracket so you can't just remove the whole braket.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes you can just flip the sensor uside down and secure it to the firewall using a 10mm nut on a newly avail stud

Jut run the vapor line from the hardline to the TB where the red hoe port goes and you'll be fine
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 04:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by travis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Heh, I remember the thread on that from IT.com. Funny stuff (something I would have done).</TD></TR></TABLE>

If by funny you mean retarded.. Then thats got to be something I did..

But I think we all had a good laugh!
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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I think Travis and the rest are stuck in ITA 88-91 Civic/CRX land. Theirs, as well as mine, MAP location is different from yours.

Yours is mounted on top of your throttle body and has nothing to do with what they are referring to.
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 05:16 AM
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Looks simple enough, although is this the right proceedure on the gas tank return side? I would think leaving it open is bad.
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 07:02 AM
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i left it open.. no problems at all
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 08:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECAcuraGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks simple enough, although is this the right proceedure on the gas tank return side? I would think leaving it open is bad.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, that is not my picture but yes I did write it some time ago.

The tank has to have a vent some where, you could use a vented gas cap with a rollover valve but just plug it up and see how far you get!





Modified by DB2-R81 at 9:16 AM 12/19/2004
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:35 AM
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Does this apply to an ITC Civic as well? This is not MPFI, it's the DPFI throttle body type. I'm sure it is the same with this D15B1 as it would be on a D16A6, but I thought I would ask before hand in case there was an issue with it.
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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I was looking into this today and it looks simple enough, although I am curious what does the evap purge valve do? do I just cap this to avoid any issues?
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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just take it out and plug any vaccum sources on the engine that are associated with the canister
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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My only reason to get rid of the tank was just to eliminate one more thing that is to worry about, but I am not sure that I like the idea of gas fumes being vented into the engine compartment. Is this a true concern?
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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and an added 12 oz
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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umm....no post from sans
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 07:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECAcuraGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My only reason to get rid of the tank was just to eliminate one more thing that is to worry about, but I am not sure that I like the idea of gas fumes being vented into the engine compartment. Is this a true concern?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm in the same boat, I'm thinking about taking it out but wanted to know the best way to vent the gas fumes away from the engine compartment. Anyone have suggestions?
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 07:07 AM
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run a hose down to near the ground?

I left mine open...
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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what can happen if you connect the two red hoses together? basically connected the fuel vapor line to the throttle body?
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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lol....are j00 serious?
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Old Mar 9, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by El Pollo Diablo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol....are j00 serious?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup, everyone says plug it all up and have the one line from the firewall as a "drain line" meaning no one connects the two hoses together...i dont think anything bad would happen since basically the charcoal canister was the middle man, but i was wondering why no one puts the lines together...

its really not that big deal of a question...
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxgator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yup, everyone says plug it all up and have the one line from the firewall as a "drain line" meaning no one connects the two hoses together...i dont think anything bad would happen since basically the charcoal canister was the middle man, but i was wondering why no one puts the lines together...

its really not that big deal of a question... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I guess it would be bad to vent vapor into the TB. :-P its like getting a weak *** 5th injector lol.
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