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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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im having problems gettign pressure to the brake pedal.

ive bled all the lines and still no pressure. whats goin on?
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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Explain to us how you are bleeding the system.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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First off make sure you have a full amount of brake fluid. Like Andyd says you will have to give more info.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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1.crack loose bleeding vavle
2.have freind pump brakes till only brake fluid is coming out.
3.have friend hold pedal to floor
4.tighten up the valve


im gonna go check and make sure the connections to the calipers are tight
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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Have your friend pump then HOLD
Crack Valve
Tighten Valve
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Daboi630 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have your friend pump then HOLD
Crack Valve
Tighten Valve</TD></TR></TABLE>

EXACTLY!!!

You aren't bleeding the system correctly.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

EXACTLY!!!

You aren't bleeding the system correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

holy ****! lol....^^
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:16 PM
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okie doke ill give it a try
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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alright, it feels much better after that


1 more question, any special order to bleed them in?
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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There is an order to bleed...but I can't remember. I am at work and my Helm's manual is at home.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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im gonna make a guess. i forgot as well

DR, PF, PR, DF

or

PR, DR, PF, DF
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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i kno you start at the clost wheel to master cylinder then i think it rr, rf, lr
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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Actually you should generally start out on the wheel farthest from the master. though thats not the case here. It's front-left, front-right, rear-right,rear-left
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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ooh that sucks dude...you sucked a lot of air in doing that......make sure to get it all out.....

keep that master full b/c you will be pulling a lot of brake fluid.....

you always start farthest away and work closer, so the order will be:
passenger rear
driver rear
passenger front
driver front
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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what would the resoning for a certain order be?
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ooh that sucks dude...you sucked a lot of air in doing that......make sure to get it all out.....

keep that master full b/c you will be pulling a lot of brake fluid.....

you always start farthest away and work closer, so the order will be:
passenger rear
driver rear
passenger front
driver front</TD></TR></TABLE>


im gonna do this order and seee how she does, ill report back in 10 mins
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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sounds good....i hope your not in my timezone though...its awful cold out there....and dark.....(im getting goosebumps just thinking about it)....
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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hmmm still doesnt feel 100%

i cna push it all the way to the floor while the car is running and before it stiffens up fully

does it matter if the car is runnign or not when your bleeding it? im doing it with the car off
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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bleh, ill keep trying, thanks for all the help guys
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ooh that sucks dude...you sucked a lot of air in doing that......make sure to get it all out.....

keep that master full b/c you will be pulling a lot of brake fluid.....

you always start farthest away and work closer, so the order will be:
passenger rear
driver rear
passenger front
driver front</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah thats what I said, you genarally want to start out farthest from the master. But some manufactorers have diffrent specifics, and in this case the sequence I wrote above is the proper sequence for the prelude.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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well i kept bleeding them and nothign changed so i took it to the dealer and they vacuum bled them and it still lost pressure. theyre saying i have a bad master cylinder
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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Probably killed the seals with the amount of air that you got in doing it originally...
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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sounds like it is the master cylinder.....i hate brake problems!
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hOndafienD 04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like it is the master cylinder.....i hate brake problems!</TD></TR></TABLE>


lol, yea driving it to the dealers was kinda wierd, lol
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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FYI it's not always the furthest away to the closest. It depends on the valve direction of the car which is why it's always good to look in your owners/shop manual. For the 5th gen it's DF, PF, PR, DR. The 4th gen is different. Though if you have a 4th gen it might not be the master cylinder. If you put a ton of air in the system like I think you did with your original bleed all the air might be caught up in your ABS system. Talk to your dealer/mechanic about how to bleed the air out of that system.
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