Is it worth it ? . . . Anyone with first hand experiance?

Here is my parts:

D16z6 block
D16a6 head and Intake Mani.
D15b2 pistons
Ls rods
Si ECU
Si Trans

C/R should be around 10:1 with a D16y8 Ex. Gasket
All Parts were Free So No cost to me. . . except the Gasket.

Is this work worth it? . . . Also I am doing all the work myself , So no cost again.

 

its worth it so you have a nice, running motor... you aren't gonna break into 10's though

 

Oh . . . I'm not try'n to race it around, due to my 21 neg. points on my record.

But a want to do something fun and almost free to make a little extra power for daily drive'n.

Need money for B18c1 NA build --- almost there


------- Has Anyone done this build Before??? ------

ps: I have searched

 

ya im doing the same thing i have a
d15b2 block
d16a6 head
d16a6 intake manifold
ANR equal length header...lol
and its going to be running an HF manifold and a T25 someime in the near future, this is in my CRX

 

1. Wait so your using a non vtec head, bad idea if you want max power out of your D.

2. Ls rods are about as large as my pinky.

If your going for a all motor D I would Get a z6 head some good rods a skunk2 IM, high compression pistons and go from there.

I'm guesing you will not see over 100hp from the listed set up.

Keep the Si transmission.

 

its frizzee lol


im running a PM6 and a SI tranny too

 

I thought the B2 pistons wouldn't work right due to incorrect wrist pin location in relation with the rod and not sticking out of the block.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LankorDie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. Wait so your using a non vtec head, bad idea if you want max power out of your D.

2. Ls rods are about as large as my pinky.

If your going for a all motor D I would Get a z6 head some good rods a skunk2 IM, high compression pistons and go from there.

I'm guesing you will not see over 100hp from the listed set up.

Keep the Si transmission. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Woah, I didn't read this. Time for some corrections senor.

1)The D16A6 has the highest flowing head out of the whole D-Series line of motors, so VTEC nay it will still be able to do the base jump of an internal combustion engine -- as an air pump -- better stock compared to the Z6 or Y8 head. Even massive amounts of porting on the Y8 won't make it flow as well as the A6, and if you must use a VTEC head as in last resort, use the Z6 as it flows better than the Y8, but sadly still not as well as the A6.

2) LS rods are as big as your pinky if you are a dwarf women; LS rods are the defacto poor-man's upgrade as they are substantially thicker than the stock rods.

3) Why would he need a high-priced item as a Skunk2 Intake manifold? Does his setup demand that much more air to justify the price? Again, with the air pump the balance of air entering the motor has to be justified relative to the amount of fuel (not taking into considerations over airflow velocity and other related items) so when and if the valve train is upgraded, there is no need for an aftermarket intake manifold. And remember: a want -- I want one -- is different then say a need -- as in my motor needs more air as the stock systems have become restrictive to my current plans and needs.

 

I posted a question on this a week or two ago, about the LS rods. I wondered if they fit into a d16a6 or if there was extensive modification to make it work, anyone care to answer that here? (Sort of off topic, sorry)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LankorDie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. Wait so your using a non vtec head, bad idea if you want max power out of your D.

2. Ls rods are about as large as my pinky.

If your going for a all motor D I would Get a z6 head some good rods a skunk2 IM, high compression pistons and go from there.

I'm guesing you will not see over 100hp from the listed set up.

Keep the Si transmission. </TD></TR></TABLE>

1. Yes I am doing a Non-vtec build --- for fun
2. Ls rods are thicker that the pincel size d-series rod
3. remember all these parts are free and I don't want to spend any money and a Vtec head and cams will be money

 

haha i cant wait till you guys get done and realize that d series builds are a waste of time, especially if you are trying to be fast, cmon

 

I'm all for D series Turbo, cheep, easy to find. Now D series all motor is kinda stupid.

Just put that engin together and drive it tell you can afford somthing with more potental then a D for a all motor set up.

 

haha i have a 90 dx hatch with a zc bottom end with d15b pistons and rods, y8 head with pnp, valve job, brand new r and m bearings, piston rings, and all the othe rmaintence **** and i ran a 14.2 last friday and im putting nitrous on it this wknd , by the way this is my beater and for soemthing or someone not wanting to run 10's just something desently quikc go for it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91sihatchback &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha i cant wait till you guys get done and realize that d series builds are a waste of time, especially if you are trying to be fast, cmon</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dent Free &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All Parts were Free So No cost to me. . . except the Gasket.
Also I am doing all the work myself , So no cost again.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dent Free &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh . . . I'm not try'n to race it around, due to my 21 neg. points on my record.
But a want to do something fun and almost free to make a little extra power for daily drive'n.

Need money for B18c1 NA build --- almost there</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dent Free &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. Yes I am doing a Non-vtec build --- for fun
2. Ls rods are thicker that the pincel size d-series rod
3. remember all these parts are free and I don't want to spend any money and a Vtec head and cams will be money </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

J-Spec EG: wow man...14.2 with an allmota D series is pretty cool. A lot of B series dont do that...

 

LS rods fit the D series? I just bought a ZC and happen to have some forged LS rods laying around.

 

I'm doing some research on the D motors. and for the money and availability you cant beat them. I read of a rex with a d16a6 block and a d16z6 head making 400 + ponies not bad hua.

I think with what I know about engines I can get very close to 200 hp with less than what it would cost just to by a B motor, by the mounts, axles, trans, clutch, exc.... If I spent that kinda money I would say D motors suck too. But I have a sohv zc motor rated at 129hp and it runs strong.

Check it out on http://www.zex.com

If I don't get 200 hp Im sure it will still kick *** in a CRX car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Woah, I didn't read this. Time for some corrections senor.

1)The D16A6 has the highest flowing head out of the whole D-Series line of motors, so VTEC nay it will still be able to do the base jump of an internal combustion engine -- as an air pump -- better stock compared to the Z6 or Y8 head. Even massive amounts of porting on the Y8 won't make it flow as well as the A6, and if you must use a VTEC head as in last resort, use the Z6 as it flows better than the Y8, but sadly still not as well as the A6.

2) LS rods are as big as your pinky if you are a dwarf women; LS rods are the defacto poor-man's upgrade as they are substantially thicker than the stock rods.

3) Why would he need a high-priced item as a Skunk2 Intake manifold? Does his setup demand that much more air to justify the price? Again, with the air pump the balance of air entering the motor has to be justified relative to the amount of fuel (not taking into considerations over airflow velocity and other related items) so when and if the valve train is upgraded, there is no need for an aftermarket intake manifold. And remember: a want -- I want one -- is different then say a need -- as in my motor needs more air as the stock systems have become restrictive to my current plans and needs.</TD></TR></TABLE>



<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J-Spec EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha i have a 90 dx hatch with a zc bottom end with d15b pistons and rods, y8 head with pnp, valve job, brand new r and m bearings, piston rings, and all the othe rmaintence **** and i ran a 14.2 last friday and im putting nitrous on it this wknd.</TD></TR></TABLE>

we ran the same time with all-motor D's i also just put a 60 shot on it now too......good luck with the build, one thing i dont get is the ls rods....no need for them, stock d16 rods will be good enough.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bserieskllr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

one thing i dont get is the ls rods....no need for them, stock d16 rods will be good enough.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have a set sitting around so I was thinking while I had the rods and pistons out to change the pistons, Why not just throw the rods in for some extra insurance. Those stock D-rods are as big as a straw.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Smokinsax &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">J-Spec EG: wow man...14.2 with an allmota D series is pretty cool. A lot of B series dont do that...</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn he beat me my jdm d15b all motor ran a 14.3 at the track earlier this summer. is say for the price and avaibility of D series motors. they should not be knocked B series is better overall yes but alot of us dont have the money

 

itll be worth it when you smoke some b series cars......

 

[QUOTE=dr_latino999]Woah, I didn't read this. Time for some corrections senor.

1)The D16A6 has the highest flowing head out of the whole D-Series line of motors, so VTEC nay it will still be able to do the base jump of an internal combustion engine -- as an air pump -- better stock compared to the Z6 or Y8 head. Even massive amounts of porting on the Y8 won't make it flow as well as the A6, and if you must use a VTEC head as in last resort, use the Z6 as it flows better than the Y8, but sadly still not as well as the A6.


the a6 is actually the worst out of the a6,z6,and y8. ever look at the ports of a y8 head? and teh combustion chamber is the biggest of any d series head out there.

anyway, heres my setup im goin with one day and yes its worth money and can be alot faster than b series for the money.

a6 block
y8 head,light p+p,y8 headgasket
p29 pistons
zex 59300 cam
skunk2 cam gear
fuel pressure regulator
decent header

that setup right there can easily hit low 14s/ high 13s. and u can do that setup for half the price of a b16 swap.

 

im running a 14.2 with intake some cheap one off ebay, a shitty header i got for 20$ from a friend, a free 2.5 crushbent exhaust and magnaflow muffler, milled head put the compression at about 9.9:1 and a zex 59300 cam....got a a6 block with pm7's waiting to go in. but first im gonna try for a 13.9 on street tires with current setup i think i can do it ran a 14.2 with only 14 degrees of timing.

 

my build is simple, A6 block and head... pnp, ballance and blueprint... ZC pistons... exospeed cam... ferra valves and some company for valve springs and retainers.... i'm trying to build it for H1 honda challenge... well at least to spec for them... my D16a6 with AEM CAI, 2.5 exhaust, and 8 degrees of advanced timing put down just over 106 at the wheels with a dynapack 3000

 

kinda off topic, but some one told me that d16a1 and ZC Rods were some of the strongest that honda made. Can anyone 2nd this?