I have a lsvtec, and I am prepping for the turbo, but have not found a suitable place to tap the oil line for the turbo, does anyone have any suggestions? Also I remember seeing a topic recently on it, but did a search with no help, thanks for your help.

 

On my turbo LS/VTEC setup, I have 2 T fittings off the back of the block, where the oil pressure sensor is at. The first one out of the block goes to the head for VTEC, 2nd nipple branching off is for the turbo's oil feed line, then it ends with the oil pressure sensor. It looks a little bit weird, but works fine.

Good luck

 

hey incognito do you have any pics of this by any chance?? i will be needing to do this same thing too soon. i bet you spent a small fortune on all those oil line fittings too, those things are expensive!

 

Hah, actually, I didn't spend too much on those fittings. It looks kinda ghetto the way I have them, but it works I'll try to get pics by this weekend.

 

thanks alot

 

Thanks. Just curious if doing the feed line that way, would cause either the turbo or the oil sprayers to not get enough oil, do you have any input on this portion?

 

I was told that Honda motors run very high oil pressure. I use a GSR oil pump in my setup, so oil pressure shouldn't be a problem. The turbo itself doesn't need much oil in it (I hear some people put restrictors in the oil feed lines because of too much oil going through).

 

incognito, are you the terry that was in toms river on saturday(15th)? and raced my friends delsol??

 

Im going to attempt the LS/Vtec turbo thing too I think. Probably going to use that thing from Z10 to run the Oil feed to the turbo right off of the GSR oil pump, then tap the oil sending unit for the Vtec head. I also plan on filtering the Oil feed line to the turbo someway being that it will be getting unfiltered oil from the oil pump.

 

Yes, I am the Terry that ran against the black del Sol. That car is FAST!!!

 

Does that kid with the del sol (black?) work at Best Buy? If so, I ran him back over the summer.

Tom

 

yes he does work at best buy,tomakit what kind of car do you have?? and terry i was the kid asking you about yoursetup at that seven eleven i was riding in the car with tj(black del sol). i was the tall kid asking about your knock sensor and oil lines seats and stuff, that was a fun night.oh yeah tj retuned his car with the motec plm and its a bit faster now that he fixed up the air fuel up a bit, too bad atco isnt open.


[Modified by internet ay, 6:25 AM 12/19/2001]

 

I need to tune my car. The only thing I've done for tuning is by feel, on the street. I'd like to get it up on a dyno, or at least use a wideband O2 thing.

I remember who you are. Are there any tracks that are still opened? I wanna go try my car out.

 

I've got a green LS...he should remember me. We ran from PA into NJ (rt1)toward his work over the summer. (this was back in August)

He had a built b18c1 in the sol pushing 15psi...and i was at 6psi stock block integra at the time...wonder how that turned out.

cool kid. we chilled for a few min at Best Buy to check each other's cars out.

Tom

 

terry if you want ill ask my friend if you can use the motec that thing works wonders if you want alls you need is to get an extra bung welded on your downpipe but i know a guy at meineke that can hook that up for 5$ and a plug. so if you really want to tune your car just get back to me and ill ask my friend. it would be worth it i think tj pulled out something like 10% fuel top end and he said he can feel the difference. so if you are interested let me know.

 

So with the Motec thing, we can tune it on the street by feel, right? The Motec thing is a wideband O2? If so, I'd like to try it out. I think Paul (TJ knows him, U might too) with the black turbo Civic coupe would want to try it out too.

 

ill talk to him yes the motec is a wideband o2 . alls you do is find a open straightaway and take some full throttle runs and watch the motec and tune from there the thing will accurately tell you your air fuel you just watch where in the rpms your car is running rich or lean and adjust your afc from there i think tj used it for like a half hour and made alot of progress.

 

Z10 engineering has a fitting that goes on the oil pump it sells for $19 bucks.

 

hey whats up...i was in the black civic coupe rollin with terry that night.

Ask TJ if theres anyway i could use the wideband. thanks. or email me at geoff@z10eng.com

i didnt wanna run you guys cause my motor has 273 miles on it that night, but i still had to **** with terry for a sec in third


BTW: RIP terrys civic....


[Modified by FFgeoff, 8:50 PM 12/22/2001]

 

dont use that fitting (z10) i designed it and made them all personally a while ago, it wont work well for your application. if you care ill elaborate.

 

Hey geoff, are you still in with Z10? What do you think of that addapter thing to run a oil line right off of the oil pump? Would you suggest that for a turbos oil feed?

 

Thanks guys, I am just going to use 2 tee's. Thanks for your honesty geoff.

 

elaborate please. i have one that i have not used yet

 

I designed that pump fitting when i was reworking my oil pump on my personal car. I use an lsvtec motor so the oil lines were an issue. I was originally going to run the turbo off the pump and make a regulator that bolted on so i could properly regulate the pressure but i realized that the oil flowing out of the pump is unfiltered, and at a higher pressure than the rest of the system (pumping losses are less at this point), so running thte turbo off of that is an overall bad idea. Also, becuase the oil at this point has not really flowed through the engine it is at an extremely high oil pressure (these are the pumping losses), somethign the turbos dont like. as it is the turbos dont like a hondas high oil pressure. An idea you may want to consider is to attach the turbo at a point that is all the way at the farthest point in the oiling system from the pump. As a result the overall pressure drop of the oil passages in the block is taken into account and prssure could be ~ 5 psi less... still high for Garret recommendations however.

FWIW i know a lot of top racers that blow thru selas very very regularly... its something hondas just have to deal with.

I am getting some new fittigns made (through Full-Race, not z10) that will do exactly what youre lookin for. run the vtec head or the turbo off of the back of the pump at the pressure you want to run it at.


I personally ran every single one of those fittings on the lathe.


[Modified by FFgeoff, 2:38 PM 12/27/2001]

 

goeff, are you the kid with the huge red fuel pump strapped to your rear suspension. i remember a car with that. well if you want to use the motec like i told terry my friend ron has it and he said 50 dollars for an hour and an hour is plenty. alls you have to do is drive down here and get an extra bung welded on your down pipe. if you are still interested in using the motec, geoff, then email me privatley and i will set you up with him. he is busy until the new year but after that we can arrange a little something. so if you are interested just email me.


[Modified by internet ay, 1:54 AM 12/23/2001]