Seems like a nice piece for under $400, just haven't read much "real world" experiences with them.

If you have one, used one or tuned one, post up!


http://aempower.com/ViewCatego...D=116

 

From what I have read this system is really only designed for boosted apps which need to retard timing under load. This system lacks the ability to advance timing iirc

 

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I've read no evidence that it can only retard timing. That would be a waste.

I'll be running it on my S2000.

check out AEM's forum for pretty good info on the unit. Sounds like it has the capability to expand and do some neat stuff.

 

If you are boosting your S2000 I would suggest coughing up the doe for the AEM plug-n-play EMS or the KPRO with the S2K kit. You will be much better of with either one of those.

 

I agree, Hondata K-Pro or AEM ems.
A lot of our customer's go with the K-pro system because they can actually find some one who knows how to tune K-pro much easier then AEM ems in their area.

 

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why? Either of those are overkill for a basic forced induction setup, and cost 4x as much.

 

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why? Either of those are overkill for a basic forced induction setup, and cost 4x as much.</TD></TR></TABLE>
are you serious? BTW the aem FIC cant advance timing. At least it couldn't a couple of months ago when I was helping a friend of mine tune a newer Eclipse with it. I believe they said it would be able to soon though.

 

plain as day:

"TIMING RETARD CONTROL

The F/IC has the ability to retard timing by intercepting and delaying the outputs from the cam and crank position sensors to the engine- with no adverse affect on applications equipped with variable cam timing. The F/IC can retard timing from the factory system based on engine RPM and load inputs."

 

Still Better than a VAFC for someeone who cant convert to OBD1 and cant use KPRO.

 

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KPRO is now available for the S2000. Has been for at least six months.

 

Im not talking about an S2k

 

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KPRO is now available for the S2000. Has been for at least six months.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Yea but it's a pretty pricey and involved process to run one of those.


Probly just going to run an AEM EMS but wanted to look into this FIC first. For the price it just seems too hard to beat.

 

We installed 2 of them not to long ago. One was a supercharged Si and the other one was a 240sx. The software was kinda eh, it worked though. Overall for like $350 or so is what there selling for it beats the heck out of a apexi afc. Id go kpro though if the budget can afford it. You can do so much with kpro. Aem ems is good too, but its pricey and depending on the area trying to find a tuner can be a pita.

 

anyone use it on an auto car? i cant convert to OBDI but am boosting. I was torn between this and the E-Manage ultimate but for the price of the AEM i was like damn

 

I did an 08 Civic w/ R18 that was an automatic. It was straightforward.

The FIC is a piggyback, duh. For someone who is more interested in having a turbo car than going fast, it's a great tool. Tuning one is *very* different than tuning a standalone. It's more of a tightrope walk. It's more important to fool the stock computer into thinking nothing is going on than anything else. I still hate piggybacks, but the FIC is by far the most capable unit I've ever seen.

 

thats pretty much my goal, as my car is a 97 auto so i cant convert down to OBDI and im not gonna go full standalone, i just want a fun car not a racer

 

im in the middle of an all motor build on my f23 for my 98 accord and now its time to pick a piggyback system and i was thinking AEM FIC but the more i read up on it the more it seems like its just for boosted cars, anyone have any input on using it for a NA build?

 

For a boosted app the FIC is the way to go if budget constraints are there. One suggestion I would have though for the FIC. Wire in the FIC before putting the turbo on the car. Drive the car around with the FIC logging all the stock positions of the map. So you can figure out where exactly you need to put your clamps on sensors. Than start tuning later on the turbo kit. Having a baseline to clamp the sensors will make tuning the car way easier so the computer thinks everything is fat, dumb and happy and wont try to make adjustments.

And yes the FIC was designed for boosted applications. You can +/-100% on fuel, but you can only retard timing. This was done this way to not trigger check engine lights in newer cars where the stock computers look for things like misfire detection which can happen when delaying signals like some piggy back systems.

 

but thats not the answer to my question...... i wanted to know if i could use it for a all motor build, i have been told by some people that i can but i figured id check befor i drop 450 on it

 

Yes you can use it on anything. As long as you do not want to advance the timing you are good to go.

 

ok thanks