Andryzzle

This:

Into

Using:
http://more-japan.com/product....age=1

Pricing from optionimports.com is:
Type 2: $675
Type 1: $855

The helper springs from more-japan are $48 for a pair.

Not only is this cost effective, it solves a problem with lowering the Type 2 past a certain point. The problem is that the spring that comes with it, the pro 210, is not long enough to compress under no load unless you have it set to a certain height. This causes a problem when you hit a bump and the spring decompresses and comes unseated. It will sit crooked and snap back into place. This happened to me and I decided it was not good for my springs. The lower limit is about here:


needless to say this is unacceptable

so here are the type 2s from way back when...
and here are the helper springs that are $48 a pair from that link.

I opted for just getting 2 for the rear so i could drop it lower. The front works just fine as a type 2. Front can go lower than this:


Anyway, there is a very good writeup for replacing shocks and struts so i'll keep mine pretty brief. This is for the back only btw and its a sedan.

-Jack up car and remove rear wheels.
-Remove this bolt from the bottom of the strut. its a 17. The nut is welded on the other side so you only need a breaker bar or a ratchet.



-Pull up rear seat bottom cushion and lower backrest of rear seat.
-Pull back plastic pieces covering the strut tower, you should now be able to see the 2 nuts holding the top of the strut into place.


-Remove the 2 nuts (14mm)
-Pull the strut off of the car, you may need to step on the rear hub to free up some space.

-Use the spanner wrenches to decompress the spring
-I opted to clean the strut and the threads as well

-Use an adjustable wrench to keep the very top of the strut from turning and a 14mm wrench to loosen the nut.

-Put the helper spring assembly on top of the existing spring, silver seat down.

-Use spanners to adjust the spring seat to the bottom of the threads
-Reassemble strut

-Install strut


As you can see, the spring stays seated even fully extended


-Put wheels back on and let car down.

Final ride height:


I'll take more pictures tomorrow.

shaunk18

accord_raffi

very nice job. tucks the tire very well

TheMuffinMan

iTrader: (1)

Hmm, is the sole purpose to keep the spring seated? My GC's have a tendency to pop outta place every so often.

Andryzzle

Are the GCs 60mm diameter (thats what the helper springs are)? I imagine this mod would be pretty universal. Keeping the spring seated while going lower was my main motivation.

Saosinx

Loco-B

good info in this thread.

but i must say that i haven't run into this issue with my sustec's yet.

Andryzzle

I guess if you have no problem, no reason to fix it. When I tried to lower mine more back when I first got my coilovers it happened a couple of times... the time I distinctly remember, I was going around a turn and hit a bump. When I turned back the other way it popped back down.

Have driven on it since last night and no sign of problems.

DoC-JoneS

good write up. i take it your are fairly happy with the S0-C's? i haven't seen anyone actually running them before.


Modified by DoC-JoneS at 12:02 PM 6/25/2008

Andryzzle

yea Kurumi and I are both running the S-0C type 2 on accords.

Mine have always ridden really nice but now that I can sit lower its

Loco-B

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Mine have always ridden really nice but now that I can sit lower its </TD></TR></TABLE>

hell yes!!! Tanabe has made one hell of a product!

solid suspension for sure. not too stiff, not to soft, and great **(adjustable) ride height
you can check my sig for more pics of the ride height!!


Modified by Kurumi at 9:32 AM 6/25/2008

Andryzzle

adjustable ride height*

where do you have yours set?

Loco-B

all the way down. but i've blown my upper strut mounts out in the rear.......LOL user installation error.....

put a washer in place where it needed to be and havent had an issue since.

TouringAccord

good info

added to the FAQ

shaunk18

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kurumi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all the way down. </TD></TR></TABLE>

this is where Andryzzle NEEDS to be!!!!

Saosinx

lol we put them all the way down.

JDMugenBB1

Bringing this back up since I'm about to purchase a nice used set of Tanabe Pro SS II coilovers...

I was wonder what you guys use to Adjust the Stiffness of the strut??

Is there a KEY or **** ... or do you just use a screw driver?

I know Tanabe probably didnt make this and expect us to use a screw driver. I know there HAS to be some coo looking Key/**** that says Tanabe on it haha

If you do have, can you post a pic?

Thanks!

Ceasar

MissJPhatEphex

hmm..interesting..good info!

Andryzzle

i don't have the SS so they are NOT dampening adjustable, only height. hope you figured out your issue though

spoolin-4

I know this is an older thread, but I bought my Tanabes used with the helper springs. Now I want to go a little lower on the front seeing its not exactly where I expected it to sit. Judging measurements, if I remove the helper springs I should be where I wanna be.

Now mine are SS pro's, but the discontinued "orange" ones. Adjustable dampening and ride height obviously.

Should I go ahead and maybe try removing the helper springs and see how it goes and if the spring unseats, or just leave it and try to live with the ride height?

Andryzzle

Should be fine, especially in the front. I am only running this setup in the rear. People have been fine running the pro-2s all around with no helpers too.

DArKStAR2453

im really sorry to be bringing this thread back from the dead but i thought i'd do that instead of just making a new thread.

anyway, i am in DESPERATE need of the helper springs that the op is talking about here.

i checked that japan web site but i called and they told me they are no longer in stock and will no longer be stocking them.

wtf! where am i supposed to get them now?
i have googled them to high hell and could not find anything at all.

my car just doesnt sit right, and i dont want to have to replace my coilovers.

any help or tips greatly appreciated, thank you.

Andryzzle

I know it's long overdue, but have you tried contacting Tanabe directly?

www.tanabe-usa.com