EG with Cantilever suspension

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:24 AM
  #1  
C1V1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 610
Likes: 1
From: vancouver, BC, CA
Default EG with Cantilever suspension

Well after seeing the Fit with Cantilever suspension I thought I'd try and build a similar setup in my 92 hatch. I used 1.75 DOM tubing and 2004 CBR 600RR rear shocks, total cost was about $250, built at home in my garage. Its a little stiff for the street but handles really well, I've put about 1500 KMS on it so far.

Here are some pics:
Name:  Untitled-19.gif
Views: 4736
Size:  255.6 KB
Name:  Untitled-15.gif
Views: 5267
Size:  237.0 KB
Name:  Untitled-16.gif
Views: 6379
Size:  292.2 KB

You'll notice in these two pics the pushrods aren't bolted in yet, I took this when I got it home from paint and couldn't wait.
Name:  hatch.gif
Views: 11422
Size:  251.6 KB
Name:  hatch4.gif
Views: 10468
Size:  336.7 KB

Name:  IMG_6373.jpg
Views: 4649
Size:  47.2 KB
Name:  IMG_6395.jpg
Views: 5745
Size:  68.9 KB




Modified by C1V1C at 12:42 PM 7/12/2007
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:30 AM
  #2  
Bakeoff's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,098
Likes: 2
From: Plymouth, MN
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (C1V1C)

I love it!
Did you do any research on the lengths of the pivot arms?
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:30 AM
  #3  
driveahonda's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 485
Likes: 0
From: 757
Default

Work Filters are killing me. I will be checking this out as soon as I get home.
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:33 AM
  #4  
C1V1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 610
Likes: 1
From: vancouver, BC, CA
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (Bakeoff)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bakeoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love it!
Did you do any research on the lengths of the pivot arms? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks!
Its just a 1:1 ratio, I thought I'd start with that but after testing it for a few 100KMS it seemed to work good so I left it.
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:46 AM
  #5  
tony1's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 15,814
Likes: 8
From: Dallas, TX, USA
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (C1V1C)

Looks cool. How much suspension travel does it have?
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:09 PM
  #6  
Bailhatch's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,517
Likes: 1
From: ME
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (tony1)

ya, that is really cool looking. Kinda neat to keep the shocks out of the elements too. Do you have a seal of some sort where the pushrod comes through the body?
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:15 PM
  #7  
Lonnie's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
From: P.S.L, FL, USA
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (Bailhatch)

Look for this setup on 90% of the cars in the apperance forum in the upcoming weeks. Looks good.
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:21 PM
  #8  
Ekasey's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,788
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte, NC
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (Lonnie)

hahahahahha exactly

nice setup but why? There are plenty of good dampers already available and the rear suspensions works well for a road race car, not trying to knoc it just curious as to why the trouble

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lonnie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Look for this setup on 90% of the cars in the apperance forum in the upcoming weeks. Looks good.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:40 PM
  #9  
C1V1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 610
Likes: 1
From: vancouver, BC, CA
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (Ekasey)

I just wanted to try something different. I wanna build a Locost (Lotus Super 7 replica) in the future and I've seen many people use inboard suspension so I thought it would be good practice. Didn't cost much and it didn't take that long to build.
I know there are tons of coilover etc but some people like to build their own stuff, this is the Welding/Fabrication forum you know
I've had about 5 different suspension setups on my car and this handles the best by far, gives it a little oversteer and very easy to control. Also the CBR shocks are Showa, dampening and rebound adjustable. I also threaded the pushrods so its height adjustable too.
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:43 PM
  #10  
Lonnie's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
From: P.S.L, FL, USA
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (C1V1C)

Curious to see a side profile shot of the car , once again real nice.
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:47 PM
  #11  
cua0's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
From: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada
Default

wow, very seldom i see something on here that i think is really bad ***, but this is. wow.
funny that you chose a honda bike too, haha.

what did the shocks cost you, out of curiosity?
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:48 PM
  #12  
C1V1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 610
Likes: 1
From: vancouver, BC, CA
Default Re: (cua0)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cua0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow, very seldom i see something on here that i think is really bad ***, but this is. wow.
funny that you chose a honda bike too, haha.

what did the shocks cost you, out of curiosity?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the comments.

Shocks were only $100 shipped for 2 on ebay!
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:54 PM
  #13  
Ekasey's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,788
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte, NC
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (C1V1C)

That's definitely appreciated

What are you basing your data on? as far as it handling the best have you tracked it or are you just going off of driver feel?


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C1V1C &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just wanted to try something different. I wanna build a Locost (Lotus Super 7 replica) in the future and I've seen many people use inboard suspension so I thought it would be good practice. Didn't cost much and it didn't take that long to build.
I know there are tons of coilover etc but some people like to build their own stuff, this is the Welding/Fabrication forum you know
I've had about 5 different suspension setups on my car and this handles the best by far, gives it a little oversteer and very easy to control. Also the CBR shocks are Showa, dampening and rebound adjustable. I also threaded the pushrods so its height adjustable too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:57 PM
  #14  
9bells's Avatar
OG Fabricator
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,342
Likes: 0
From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Default Re: (C1V1C)

That's neat. Nice job, so clean now under there.
The shocks do look great inside, and they will see so much less grime etc. as mentioned this way.

Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 01:01 PM
  #15  
C1V1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 610
Likes: 1
From: vancouver, BC, CA
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (Ekasey)

heres a pic of the car




I tracked the car with tanabe coilovers and Koni's with various spring rates, haven't tracked the new suspension yet, so for now it's just driver feel, and it feels good
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 01:02 PM
  #16  
cua0's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
From: Red Deer, Alberta, Canada
Default

eww your intake is on the wrong side of your engine!!
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 01:03 PM
  #17  
JDMCRX's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 5,687
Likes: 1
From: Canada
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (C1V1C)

Crazy Kanuks
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 03:51 PM
  #18  
Sims's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
From: Dallas, TX
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (JDMCRX)

So with it being a 1:1 ratio, your shock and spring are the actual effective rate correct? Also your suspension travel is directly related on a 1:1 basis of the actual coil over?
Just courious, never researched the cantilever stuff much although it is neat.
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 04:52 PM
  #19  
shortyz21's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 969
Likes: 0
From: abbotsford, bc, canada
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (JDMCRX)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Crazy Kanuks </TD></TR></TABLE>

u no it dawg!

nice setup, u downtown?
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 05:17 PM
  #20  
slammed_93_hatch's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 13,483
Likes: 0
From: cali
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (C1V1C)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by C1V1C &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. Also the CBR shocks are Showa, dampening and rebound adjustable. I also threaded the pushrods so its height adjustable too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

dampening is what a shock does. compression and rebound are the 2 types of movement a damper sees
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 06:35 PM
  #21  
C1V1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 610
Likes: 1
From: vancouver, BC, CA
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (slammed_93_hatch)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

dampening is what a shock does. compression and rebound are the 2 types of movement a damper sees</TD></TR></TABLE>

okay I didn't word it right, well compression and rebound are adjustable then

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shortyz21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
nice setup, u downtown?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I live in Richmond

And Sims, yes and yes.
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 06:50 PM
  #22  
Justin Jones's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 812
Likes: 0
From: Peg City, 204
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (C1V1C)

thats sick, mad props.
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 07:10 PM
  #23  
nerdsports's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,401
Likes: 0
From: Tampa
Default

awesome build.

whats the spring rate on CBR shock(s)??
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 07:17 PM
  #24  
jdmer4life's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 327
Likes: 0
From: Riverside Cali
Default Re: (nerdsports)

nice set up
Reply
Old Jul 12, 2007 | 07:26 PM
  #25  
Lamchop0000's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,632
Likes: 0
From: ca
Default Re: EG with Cantilever suspension (C1V1C)

simply nice.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:04 AM.