does any1 know when there will be a perfomance chip available for the Si..i kno about the reflash but when will they come out with a real chip..jus wondering why there has been none available..i kno the car is still kinda new but 07' models of other car companies have chips available..for example the GTI...

 

No
the ecu's from 02 civic's up dont " chip" anymore.

 

...some companies do make chips for older hondas but they typically provide little to no gains. If you're looking to get more power via the ECU on your new si , Hondata/equvilent is the ONLY way.

 

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GTI's dont use chips either. They are reflashes now too. They stopped the chips early in 01 VR6's. Now its pretty much an industry standard to just do a reflash.

 

reflash is the new chip

 

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except reflash actually works

 

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except reflash actually works </TD></TR></TABLE>

Quality, real chips worked. Its just everyone gave chips in general a bad name because of the goofy crap being sold on Ebay.

 

Chips are old skool like Pony Hi-Tops, I can't think of many cars that have used them since the '02 model year. Like everyone said, you are best served with a reflash or K-Pro when it comes out for the FG/FA.

Jon

 

my friend has a Giac chip for his 07' GTI that gave him about a 40HP gain..so its not really like the reflash...

 

but thnx every1..l00ks like reflash is in my near future..

 

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Jon</TD></TR></TABLE>

Throwback performance parts!

 

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No he doesnt, he has a reflash.

Purchasing GIAC performance software via GIAC Flashloader™ is an efficient, hi-tech experience. GIAC authorized dealers purchase registrations from GIAC. The dealer scans the customer's car and generates a customer purchase information file using GIAC's Serial Suite Software™. The dealer then emails this file to GIAC and within minutes downloads a valid registration file. The dealer uses this file, the GIAC Serial Suite Software to flash the customer's car.

 

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No he doesnt, he has a reflash.

Purchasing GIAC performance software via GIAC Flashloader™ is an efficient, hi-tech experience. GIAC authorized dealers purchase registrations from GIAC. The dealer scans the customer's car and generates a customer purchase information file using GIAC's Serial Suite Software™. The dealer then emails this file to GIAC and within minutes downloads a valid registration file. The dealer uses this file, the GIAC Serial Suite Software to flash the customer's car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow. Major ownage.

 

His friend just calls it a "chip" because he doesn't know either..

 

ur right..but mayb i should've explained myself better..wat i meant when i said its not like da reflash.... is that its different because w/ the Giac..you get an automatic 40HP gain at the least..and thats on a bone stock car w/ no modifications required...w/ the reflash you need to have sum kind of modification or else you'll lose power, and the most you'll squeeze outta dat is a 15-25 HP gain...that's all i meant, thats why i figured reflash & actual "chip" is different...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NHBP_Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">w/ the reflash you need to have sum kind of modification or else you'll lose power, and the most you'll squeeze outta dat is a 15-25 HP gain...</TD></TR></TABLE>

"dat" information would be incorrect.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NHBP_Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ur right..but mayb i should've explained myself better..wat i meant when i said its not like da reflash.... is that its different because w/ the Giac..you get an automatic 40HP gain at the least..and thats on a bone stock car w/ no modifications required...w/ the reflash you need to have sum kind of modification or else you'll lose power, and the most you'll squeeze outta dat is a 15-25 HP gain...that's all i meant, thats why i figured reflash & actual "chip" is different...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Now I'm not an expert or anything about tuning, but i'm guessing the reason you can get so much more hp out of the GTi vs. the Si is because they probably turn up the boost a little with that "reflash" for the VW along with the other stuff (a/f mixture etc.). Since the Si doesn't come factory turboed then I would assume that it makes it harder to squeeze power out of it.

Someone correct me if im wrong.

 

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Now I'm not an expert or anything about tuning, but i'm guessing the reason you can get so much more hp out of the GTi vs. the Si is because they probably turn up the boost a little with that "reflash" for the VW along with the other stuff (a/f mixture etc.). Since the Si doesn't come factory turboed then I would assume that it makes it harder to squeeze power out of it.

Someone correct me if im wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope you are absolutely correct, but for the record those same companies say that you should have an intake etc for the reflash/chip. Its not just Hondata.

 

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"dat" information would be incorrect.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No "you" would be incorrect. You DO have to have some modification on the FG2 in order for the reflash to be effective or you WILL lose power. Look it up on Hondata's website if you don't believe anyone.

 

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No "you" would be incorrect. You DO have to have some modification on the FG2 in order for the reflash to be effective or you WILL lose power. Look it up on Hondata's website if you don't believe anyone.</TD></TR></TABLE>yeah that
with the reflash you need either intake/raceheader or the combination of both

 

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No "you" would be incorrect. You DO have to have some modification on the FG2 in order for the reflash to be effective or you WILL lose power. Look it up on Hondata's website if you don't believe anyone.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You still gain peak power, it doesnt say you wont on Hondata's site ANYWHERE

What it says is:
It is not designed to work with a stock 06/07 Civic Si and will lose power between 4500rpm and 5600 rpm if installed.

So you lose power between that, but will still make a gain over all. Ive already inquired about this.

 

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You still gain peak power, it doesnt say you wont on Hondata's site ANYWHERE

What it says is:
It is not designed to work with a stock 06/07 Civic Si and will lose power between 4500rpm and 5600 rpm if installed.

So you lose power between that, but will still make a gain over all. Ive already inquired about this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's where the powerband is! Why would you install something that loses power at the most important RPM range? 1000 - 4400 rpm is weak and has no torque, 5700 - 8000 is mostly high end and has no torque. Seems worthless to me. Besides, if something says it is not designed to work with a stock Civic, that's enough convincing for me.

 

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That's where the powerband is! Why would you install something that loses power at the most important RPM range? 1000 - 4400 rpm is weak and has no torque, 5700 - 8000 is mostly high end and has no torque. Seems worthless to me. Besides, if something says it is not designed to work with a stock Civic, that's enough convincing for me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah our main power comes on with the vtec window. It will be fine to run it stock but you are losing torque in the above mentioned rpms. Call Hondata and ask.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spcmanspiff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's where the powerband is! Why would you install something that loses power at the most important RPM range? 1000 - 4400 rpm is weak and has no torque, 5700 - 8000 is mostly high end and has no torque. Seems worthless to me. Besides, if something says it is not designed to work with a stock Civic, that's enough convincing for me.</TD></TR></TABLE>the reflash is designed to add more fuel if you car is more free flowing than stock
if its not more free flowing then your just adding more fuel to a stock motor (which is dangerous by the way)
in stock form the engine is designed to run quiet, efficiently, and environment friendly
your just unlocking the car's potential thats already there

and why would i want more power down low, i already have trouble getting traction there when i was stock (fwd ftl)
for our cars mid-range and high-end is where its at