1st
I am NOT going to put Penn. Syncho lube in my tranny.
That may 'work' and stop grinding, but that is just cause it is too thick.
You stuff enough sawdust in the tranny and it will shift better and stop grinding too, but I dont recommend that either.
I dont want to cover up a problem and let it get worse.That is like putting black tape over your check engine light!

If I had some 3rd party tranny for a Honda(is there even such a thing?) I would use what they recommended. Custom rebuilt trannys still need Honda fluid or eqiv because it is still the same case so even the teeth count is different it is still a Honda tranny.

Now that I have taken care of the Sychromesh pushers. Not stop them just state that I wont the other people to answer too.
(flame all you want you now know I will ignore you )

I am wondering about this...
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/mtf.aspx

It is synthetic and I want to use synthetic everywhere I can.(Honda's is not)
No it is not Honda but all my research says it meets there recommendations.

I am using synthetic motor oil of the weight stated in the manual and by the dealers(note plural) currently.

Any one driven on this alot. I drive cross country (10k in 8wks recently) and would like to hear similar expiriences.
Do you know of other syns that are formulated specifically for Honda 5-speed trannys?

Thanks


Modified by aal at 6:56 PM 9/26/2006

 

Nothing is wrong with synchromesh. You can never stop the synchromesh pushers!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tippyman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nothing is wrong with synchromesh. You can never stop the synchromesh pushers! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Just take the tape off your engine light and I will be happy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaHeddie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Just take the tape off your engine light and I will be happy.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have never had a grind in any of my trannies and I put synchromesh in them anyway. It's just a good fluid.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tippyman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have never had a grind in any of my trannies and I put synchromesh in them anyway. It's just a good fluid. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree it is EXCELLENT fluid.
Completely bad *** stuff.
I just dont drive a GM.

I would hate for a Honda noob to kill a tranny by hiding problems with oil that is too thick and getting standed in podunk central when is loses gears


Modified by HondaHeddie at 7:18 PM 9/26/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaHeddie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would hate for a Honda noob to kill a tranny by hiding problems with oil that is too thick</TD></TR></TABLE>

Two things. Not a noob. None of my trannies had problems to begin with. I like to keep it that way... These trannies are so old and beaten that it is OK to use slightly thicker oil, aka Synchromesh. It's like high-mileage oil for your tranny.

High mileage engines benefit from different oils because they are worn, like our old, cable trannies.

Honda may recomend a certain weight, but that is from the factory. Hell, Honda barely supports EG's anymore, let alone EF's.

 

Tippyman
I never called you a noob
Nor would I ever think that
I was refering to peeps new to the list and Hondas.

Sorry for being unclear

You have given lots of wonderful advice and I have used some of it myself.



That IS a good point about old cars and I will take it under advisement.
My tranny is happy with the recomended oil at 240k+ though.


I really like your masturbatorial signature.
I need to get me a T-shirt listing all the friends and their statements of how great I am too


lol


Rock on

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaHeddie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry for being unclear

You have given lots of wonderful advice and I have used some of it myself.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's all good.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaHeddie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really like your masturbatorial signature.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have told people before and I'll say it again. I'm an egotistical *****.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tippyman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have told people before and I'll say it again. I'm an egotistical *****. </TD></TR></TABLE>


That is a keeper

Thanks for the quote Tippyman

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaHeddie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


That is a keeper

Thanks for the quote Tippyman</TD></TR></TABLE>

haha, .

 

Not to continue to not help you with the question you are trying to ask or anything but...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaHeddie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree it is EXCELLENT fluid.
Completely bad *** stuff.
I just dont drive a GM. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont drive a GM either which is why i use BG Synchroshift instead

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bob_760 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not to continue to not help you with the question you are trying to ask or anything but...

I dont drive a GM either which is why i use BG Synchroshift instead </TD></TR></TABLE>


Thanks for the info.
I looked at the site, and like most ads for these types of fancy oils, they do not state the viscosity.

What is the viscosity?
I hope they have it on the package.

 

Mix your oil if you are uncertain about it. If you are concerned with Synchromesh screweing up your tranny don't usae it in pure form. I'm currently mixing it with 10-w30 synthetic (i think) and the tranny is working better than with watever it had before. Just like Seafoam ruins your seals, just don't use as much and u'll be good.
Just my 5 cents

 

Ive always liked Redline MTL, i use it in all my trannys and its made the shifts pretty smooth

 

some of those synthetics will damage or weaken the brass syncros or the hub itself over time, convetional 10w30 si the best way to go, it does get all runny like synthetics do, because the case has no forced lubrication, a thicker conventional is the way to go, cheap, and more effective than any heavy weight gear oil you can buy, all your actually doing is accellerating wear, but the oil you use (like idiots using 85w90 gear oil) covers it up, so you never know if the tranny is screwing up or not.

id rather know if a tranny is worn out, rather than using a high performance oil, just to hide the problem a little longer, oil does not fix a trans.... just my two cents...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowcivic2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some of those synthetics will damage or weaken the brass syncros or the hub itself over time, convetional 10w30 si the best way to go, it does get all runny like synthetics do, because the case has no forced lubrication, a thicker conventional is the way to go, cheap, and more effective than any heavy weight gear oil you can buy, all your actually doing is accellerating wear, but the oil you use (like idiots using 85w90 gear oil) covers it up, so you never know if the tranny is screwing up or not.

id rather know if a tranny is worn out, rather than using a high performance oil, just to hide the problem a little longer, oil does not fix a trans.... just my two cents...</TD></TR></TABLE>

My feelings exactly......

but

Tippyman makes a good point on the wear(and therefore increased clearences) of older tranny's deserving thicker oil, which I will(ie 30w or 40w).
Though if you need 80w-90w you need to rebuild your tranny in my opinion.
When I rebuild my tranny I will definitely only used mfgr recommended lube.


I will continue using synthetics though as I dont want to support Osama.


Modified by HondaHeddie at 10:48 PM 9/29/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaHeddie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
When I rebuild my tranny I will definitely only used mfgr recommended lube.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If your rebuilding it, absolutely.