TheTealHatch

well both are similar prices around 700 bucks.. but i was just wondering from peoples experience which coilover system in better... any pro and cons from each of the product.. because ive search and ive heard many good things about ksports but then omni ive also heard good things but i heard they break or something.. just dont know what to go with. Car will be street driven..

PIC Performance

Con of a coilover: they are not designed for comfortable street driving. Don't kid yourself; do you really need coilovers? Or will you get the same benefits (drop, slightly better handling) without their shortcomes (harsher ride, high price, maintenance) if you just went with lowering springs?

VeilSide_Mas

don't really understand.... aint coilovers better.....

PIC Performance

For sure, coilovers can do some things better than a stock spring/shock combo can. But one thing they will not do better is provide a more comfortable ride. Performance (at the very basic level is stiffer springs) and ride comfort (again at the basic level is soft springs) are on opposite ends of the spectrum, and one can't be had without sacrificing the other, so there will always be a compromise.

TheTealHatch

im not talking about the coilover itself.. im talking the whole system.. the shocks with the springs... meaning the whole set... any of them good?

VeilSide_Mas

i belief he is talking about the whole setup instead of just the adjustable sleeves type of coilovers

Solracer

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Nope he is talking about any-type of Threaded Shock or Sleeve, the springs on these types of kits a usually Linear Rate Springs, which is automatically going to give you a stiffer ride, most lowering springs have progressive rate springs which will give you a better ride and good handling when needed.

IF you car is driven on the street 90% of the time, you do not need any type of Threaded Shock/sleeve, you are paying for something that you are not going to use the full capabilities of, lowering springs are a great way to get a good ride , a nice looking ride height and good performance, especially when paired with some good shocks.

To answer the poll, if my only choices in suspension where k-sport and omni I would choose k-sport hands down, I just do not trust a company (omni) that seems to continually have problems with a lot of their products, which leads me to believe they are cutting corners somewhere. I have not heard of any major problems with the K-Sport suspension offerings.

AutoXer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Solracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IF you car is driven on the street 90% of the time, you do not need any type of Threaded Shock/sleeve, you are paying for something that you are not going to use the full capabilities of, lowering springs are a great way to get a good ride , a nice looking ride height and good performance, especially when paired with some good shocks.
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Seriously. If my car was street only, it'd be a good shock / spring combo. Hell, I even raced with that setup for a while.

Targa250R

Omnipower products seem to be a permanent beta test, and they're pretty stiff (560f/448r for the Street kit); K-Sports are stiffly spring (504f/392r for the softer kit) for a street car and a bit underdamped, and the damping adjustments aren't very effective.

You'd be better off with a set of off-the-shelf Ground Control coilovers (350f/250r) and Koni Sport dampers. You won't be spending much more than with the other setups, and it would ride better. Alternately, if you're looking for ride comfort, you could get a set of Koni Sports and some regular progressive lowering springs (like H&R Sport).

BodyKits NW

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Omnipower products seem to be a permanent beta test, and they're pretty stiff (560f/448r for the Street kit); K-Sports are stiffly spring (504f/392r for the softer kit) for a street car and a bit underdamped, and the damping adjustments aren't very effective.

You'd be better off with a set of off-the-shelf Ground Control coilovers (350f/250r) and Koni Sport dampers. You won't be spending much more than with the other setups, and it would ride better. Alternately, if you're looking for ride comfort, you could get a set of Koni Sports and some regular progressive lowering springs (like H&R Sport).</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am a distributor for Ksport, and I have done tons of testing with their products. I rarely ever sell the standard 11/7 rate. Most of the time it's a lil too harsh for my customers. I have setups that Ksports makes us to cater to my customers who have different needs. You won't find many customers dissappointed with the setups we have provided or with our service.

Targa250R

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Yes, the standard 11 kg-mm/7 kg-mm (616 lbs-in/392 lbs-in) rates are a bit stiff, but the optional 9k/7k (504/392) rates aren't all that much softer. Do you offer any other spring combos? Maybe with some softer springs, they wouldn't feel so underdamped . . .

TheTealHatch

so going with different spring combos and aftermarket shocks would be the best?? but the thing is that i want something that has a really nice drop.. but a nice ride. i was thinking of doing that but then i wouldnt be able to adjust my height if i felt something different going somewhere.. but overall what do you guys think would be the best bucks..?

AutoXer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ackavong &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i want something that has a really nice drop.. but a nice ride.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can't have both. The lower you go, the stiffer you have to be.

Big drop
Smooth ride
Performance handling

Pick one, because you're always making a compromise between those three things.

TheTealHatch

haha hard choice

but i want a smooth ride.. whats the lowest you can go w/o getting a harsh ride...

Rob.

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but i want a smooth ride.. whats the lowest you can go w/o getting a harsh ride... </TD></TR></TABLE>

2.0"

AutoXer

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There's really not an exact number. Look around at the drops of springs to get an idea. Eibach pro-kits and H&R OE sports are about the most comfortable ride you'll get, and will give you a touch of performance at about .75-1.5" drop. The 'sport' line of springs will give you more of a drop, but then you start getting into some harsher rides.

BodyKits NW

I have the 11/9 setup on my car, and my car a lil past 2"

This is my turbo EK, one of the test vehicles we use.

TheTealHatch

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This is my turbo EK, one of the test vehicles we use.
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2inch drop??? the thing is that the drop makes it look low cause of the lip doesnt it??

BodyKits NW

Yah, not only is it the CF lip, but the aftermarket Cwest bumper as well. The Bumper is larger than my OEM bumper when it comes to top to bottom height.

A.E Motoring

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i loved my Ksports, i need to get another set

TheTealHatch

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thats great.. you had custom spring rate?? or no?? any pictures of your car with the ksports with a drop..?? thanks

A.E Motoring

iTrader: (1)

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thats great.. you had custom spring rate?? or no?? any pictures of your car with the ksports with a drop..?? thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

no custom rates, the off the shelf ones were just fine, these are pics of my car when i was selling it, i still had ALOT MORE to go down, and i never ever even touched the damping control and still rode great. Great Coilover, i need to get another set for my hatch.

TheTealHatch

awsome maybe ill pick those up soon enough.. where you get them off for the cheapest??

implayaz9

soory noob at ksport coils.. question is.. these are goin to be more of a racing type of suspension kit or?..i am in the market for looking for a everyday ride suspension.. something which will give a decent smooth ride but at the same time handles the car well..

TheTealHatch

these can be an dailey driven suspension.. but if you dont want to spend much just get some good aftermarket shocks and lowering springs