Ground Control + Koni Yellow Review
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Ground Control + Koni Yellow Review
HOLY SH*T!
HOLY SH*T!
HOLY SH*T!
HOLY SH*T!
HOLY SH*T!
Completely surpassed my expectations. I went with custom spring rates (500front, 400rear) and extended tophats on all four corners and there is nearly no body roll whatsoever. Confidence at high speed through corners is 100% improved over the garbage KYB AGX and off the shelf rates with my old GC kit.
I was able to lower the car about half an inch more which was impossible with my old setup due to rubbing because of the soft springs and shitty AGX dampers, but now the setup is tight and I have nearly no rubbing at all.
Some pussies might call the ride harsh, but to me it's perfection. I can feel everything through the wheel and with the hugely improved steering response dodging potholes is fun as hell. Oh my god I can't believe how awesome this thing rides. If anyone is considering getting a new suspension setup you'd be dumb to not consider this setup. I've had Tein, KW, and HKS coilovers on previous cars and nothing even came close to comparing to how great the Koni/GC setup rides.
This is after about 50 miles of driving on highway, back roads and city streets. I'll update in a week or so once everything really settles in and I have more time to enjoy it. I feel like it's a brand new car and I want to drive everywhere now.
HOLY SH*T!
HOLY SH*T!
HOLY SH*T!
HOLY SH*T!
Completely surpassed my expectations. I went with custom spring rates (500front, 400rear) and extended tophats on all four corners and there is nearly no body roll whatsoever. Confidence at high speed through corners is 100% improved over the garbage KYB AGX and off the shelf rates with my old GC kit.
I was able to lower the car about half an inch more which was impossible with my old setup due to rubbing because of the soft springs and shitty AGX dampers, but now the setup is tight and I have nearly no rubbing at all.
Some pussies might call the ride harsh, but to me it's perfection. I can feel everything through the wheel and with the hugely improved steering response dodging potholes is fun as hell. Oh my god I can't believe how awesome this thing rides. If anyone is considering getting a new suspension setup you'd be dumb to not consider this setup. I've had Tein, KW, and HKS coilovers on previous cars and nothing even came close to comparing to how great the Koni/GC setup rides.
This is after about 50 miles of driving on highway, back roads and city streets. I'll update in a week or so once everything really settles in and I have more time to enjoy it. I feel like it's a brand new car and I want to drive everywhere now.
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Re: Ground Control + Koni Yellow Review
Something else I forgot to mention was during the install I was a bit freaked out because after installing the front I lowered the car and there was a little less than an inch of shock travel before hitting bump stops. I was thinking to myself...f*ck...this isn't right. I called Ground Control and the rep said that with higher spring rates and a car as low as mine, it's not uncommon to see an inch of shock travel and I wouldn't have any issues.
He recommended I cut the bump stops included with the GC tophats down a notch. I did that and I haven't noticed the car hitting the bump stops at all. No bouncing or anything. Just rock solid around the corners. I set the dampers to full stiff and backed them off about 3/4 turn, however I may move them a quarter turn closer to full stiff.
He recommended I cut the bump stops included with the GC tophats down a notch. I did that and I haven't noticed the car hitting the bump stops at all. No bouncing or anything. Just rock solid around the corners. I set the dampers to full stiff and backed them off about 3/4 turn, however I may move them a quarter turn closer to full stiff.
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Glad you really enjoy the setup. I love mine.
As for bump-stops, you cannot really tell how the suspension will react to "contacting" the bump-stops until an actual road test. A bump stop is extremely progressive in it's spring rate and not just a "dead-end". You could make contact with them all the time and not even notice because your not compressing it enough to get really stiff.
The more you cut a bump-stop, the stiffer it becomes and the quicker it's spring-rate will rise as it's compressed. I'm not saying you messed anything up, I'm just throwing this info out there to help people understand.
I once read a really nifty article on how you can actually tune over/under-steer with bump-stops. It was pretty interesting stuff. The major point they were trying to get across was that they should actually be treated as "spring-helpers" rather than bump-stops.
As for bump-stops, you cannot really tell how the suspension will react to "contacting" the bump-stops until an actual road test. A bump stop is extremely progressive in it's spring rate and not just a "dead-end". You could make contact with them all the time and not even notice because your not compressing it enough to get really stiff.
The more you cut a bump-stop, the stiffer it becomes and the quicker it's spring-rate will rise as it's compressed. I'm not saying you messed anything up, I'm just throwing this info out there to help people understand.
I once read a really nifty article on how you can actually tune over/under-steer with bump-stops. It was pretty interesting stuff. The major point they were trying to get across was that they should actually be treated as "spring-helpers" rather than bump-stops.
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Re: Ground Control + Koni Yellow Review
Yea the GC bump stops are definitely progressive, removing one of the rings wasn't an issue I know they would still perform as usual. Given my high spring rate I don't think bottoming out is going to be an issue, at least with street tires.
And yes the bump stops only come with the top hats, which are optional.
And yes the bump stops only come with the top hats, which are optional.
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Glad to see this because I was just questioning myself on whether this setup would be well worth the money or if i should just buck up now and buy a set of amr coilovers, thanks for the info!
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Yeah the way i see it is that amr is the same as koni/gc its just that the amr is fined tuned to be specifically for your car. so basically its $400 more for a fine tuning setup. in racing its worth it but for a daily drivers and weekend track runs you can use the $400 you save and put it towards a swaybar setup.
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For those who re-used their OEM top hats along with the bump-stops; do you have to trim/cut the bump-stops (the brown object on step 9) at the beginning of installation or did you wait until you test drive before you cut, if at all? If you do/did, how much did you cut? Thanks.
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For those who re-used their OEM top hats along with the bump-stops; do you have to trim/cut the bump-stops (the brown object on step 9) at the beginning of installation or did you wait until you test drive before you cut, if at all? If you do/did, how much did you cut? Thanks.
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For the koni/Gc set up Th Motorsports t
Has a badass special go to the marketplace under suspension and look for it it's a great deal
Has a badass special go to the marketplace under suspension and look for it it's a great deal
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Thanks for those who answered. So half-way trim it is! I just ordered the Koni/GC w/o the tophats along with the 22mm Progress sway bar from THMotorsports via Nick. It seems to be that the company/Nick gives you a decent deal.