How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP
01-23-2005, 03:51 AM
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How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP
i dunno if i ever posted what i did before on this site, but you can read what i did before. i even have video. i have since sold the car i installed the modded front engine mount to a friend but its still available to me, so i swapped the mount to my current CRX, which is bone stock, including original shocks and springs. the result is still total elimination of wheel hop when i dump the clutch (which i rarely do anyway, just did it to test). moreso, its just a crisper shift in general, initial throttle and acceleration is direct. the effects are definately noticable, while absolutely NO extra vibration, like i hear from those who installed poly fillers. also, i can say that installed poly bushings in the front radius rod did nothing for wheel hop, it makes me wonder why so many ppl stress aftermarket crossmember "traction bars" with spherical bearings are supposed to eliminate wheel hop. just fill the front engine mount with 10 cent rubber hose....
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stiffened my front engine mount the other day. i'd say the results are excellent. some might have read or heard i can now do burnouts without any wheel hop, where before i could never drop the clutch (nor did i really have the desire to, and really dont plan on keeping on doing it) all i used were a couple 1.5" cut piece of rubber fuel line hose 1/2" OD, 1/4" ID.
the result is an excellent feel after shifting as i apply the power. power delivery seems much smoother and direct. i have no more wheel hop. stiffer front radius rod bushings did not solve this for me. and, absolutely no extra chassis vibrations transmitted to the chassis as many complain about when putting in energy suspension poly bushing fillers. you can even see the big crack in the stock rubber. im quite happy, thought id share.
heres a video that shows before and after. the difference is not dramatic, but you can tell the difference. the true difference can be definately felt, but not quite as easily captured for display...
http://www.norcalcrx.org/tyson/videos/unfilled.wmv
http://www.norcalcrx.org/tyson/videos/filled.wmv
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stiffened my front engine mount the other day. i'd say the results are excellent. some might have read or heard i can now do burnouts without any wheel hop, where before i could never drop the clutch (nor did i really have the desire to, and really dont plan on keeping on doing it) all i used were a couple 1.5" cut piece of rubber fuel line hose 1/2" OD, 1/4" ID.
the result is an excellent feel after shifting as i apply the power. power delivery seems much smoother and direct. i have no more wheel hop. stiffer front radius rod bushings did not solve this for me. and, absolutely no extra chassis vibrations transmitted to the chassis as many complain about when putting in energy suspension poly bushing fillers. you can even see the big crack in the stock rubber. im quite happy, thought id share.
heres a video that shows before and after. the difference is not dramatic, but you can tell the difference. the true difference can be definately felt, but not quite as easily captured for display...
http://www.norcalcrx.org/tyson/videos/unfilled.wmv
http://www.norcalcrx.org/tyson/videos/filled.wmv
01-23-2005, 07:05 AM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP (Tyson)
Check this website out. A lot better quality for about the same price!
http://www.raktron.com/misc/mt.htm
Its a dsm page put the information is usefull! I did this mod with the windo-weld on the front and left mounts and I have little to no wheel hop anymore on my poor old db9
http://www.raktron.com/misc/mt.htm
Its a dsm page put the information is usefull! I did this mod with the windo-weld on the front and left mounts and I have little to no wheel hop anymore on my poor old db9
01-23-2005, 07:23 AM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP (mntuner2)
If you did that to the entire engine you probably wouldn't see it move at all but the ride will be a lot rougher.
01-23-2005, 07:46 AM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP (mntuner2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mntuner2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check this website out. A lot better quality for about the same price!
http://www.raktron.com/misc/mt.htm
Its a dsm page put the information is usefull! I did this mod with the windo-weld on the front and left mounts and I have little to no wheel hop anymore on my poor old db9 </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah but that will have insane vibrations, and notice tyson said his doesnt have any...
http://www.raktron.com/misc/mt.htm
Its a dsm page put the information is usefull! I did this mod with the windo-weld on the front and left mounts and I have little to no wheel hop anymore on my poor old db9
</TD></TR></TABLE>yeah but that will have insane vibrations, and notice tyson said his doesnt have any...
01-23-2005, 08:19 AM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP ([crx]Hated it!!!)
thats pretty cool..i'm gonna go do it here in a few minutes. But my engine won't be here till this weekend 
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01-23-2005, 09:27 AM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP (y49crxsi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by y49crxsi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you glue rthem in, i would think the vibration wwould cause them to fall out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the front engine mount is bounded at each side, so the pieces are captured pretty well.
yeah, i know of the DIY silicone window weld whatever. i never tried it but that just seems messy... im happy with my results. and its reversible if i didnt like it.
the front engine mount is bounded at each side, so the pieces are captured pretty well.
yeah, i know of the DIY silicone window weld whatever. i never tried it but that just seems messy... im happy with my results. and its reversible if i didnt like it.
01-23-2005, 11:05 AM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP (Tyson)
I did the poly fill on my crx mounts. I loved it and it only cost about $5. Engine didnt move at all.
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01-23-2005, 11:20 AM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP ([crx]Hated it!!!)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by [crx Hated it!!! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yeah but that will have insane vibrations</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not really, felt a little newer almost like a honda certified used vehicle
yeah but that will have insane vibrations</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not really, felt a little newer almost like a honda certified used vehicle
01-23-2005, 11:37 AM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP (mntuner2)
i have the motor mount inserts, and my whole dam car feels like its going to vibrate apart...i dont see how that would be any less...
01-24-2005, 08:29 AM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP ([crx]Hated it!!!)
yeah, honestly the best thing is that it doesnt intruduce any extra vibrations. i think a few rattles have ceased actually. at this point im leaving my car totally stock unless it either helps or doesnt lower at all the comfort level of my car.
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP (Tyson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, honestly the best thing is that it doesnt intruduce any extra vibrations. i think a few rattles have ceased actually. at this point im leaving my car totally stock unless it either helps or doesnt lower at all the comfort level of my car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i didnt mean you tyson, im thinking of taking out my inserts and doing what you did, but i dont see how the 3m stuff wouldnt be subject to vibrations considering you are making the mount not be able to move at all...doesnt seem right...
i didnt mean you tyson, im thinking of taking out my inserts and doing what you did, but i dont see how the 3m stuff wouldnt be subject to vibrations considering you are making the mount not be able to move at all...doesnt seem right...
11-01-2005, 05:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my engine is still running fine. no wheel hop.</TD></TR></TABLE>
cool i'm going to try this diy...
cool i'm going to try this diy...
11-01-2005, 05:16 PM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP (dannydos)
I did both inserts - worked out good so far. Thanks again Tyson
11-01-2005, 05:25 PM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP (mntuner2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mntuner2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check this website out. A lot better quality for about the same price!
http://www.raktron.com/misc/mt.htm
Its a dsm page put the information is usefull! I did this mod with the windo-weld on the front and left mounts and I have little to no wheel hop anymore on my poor old db9 </TD></TR></TABLE>
I did that on my 4g63t Colt and it worked great with little or no vibes.
http://www.raktron.com/misc/mt.htm
Its a dsm page put the information is usefull! I did this mod with the windo-weld on the front and left mounts and I have little to no wheel hop anymore on my poor old db9
</TD></TR></TABLE>I did that on my 4g63t Colt and it worked great with little or no vibes.
11-01-2005, 05:50 PM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP (CRXBart)
has anybody tried using cable to tie down their upper control to the lower....i ask this because i saw this setup on a drag car...and i still down know why he did it the car..i'm guessing to elimate wheel hop right?
11-01-2005, 05:56 PM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP (dannydos)
no, thats to eliminate wheel jacking when you torque the engine. not the same thing as wheel hop, and totally unrelated to what i did to the front engine mount. so start another thread or search if you want to know more about that...
11-01-2005, 06:00 PM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP (Tyson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no, thats to eliminate wheel jacking when you torque the engine. not the same thing as wheel hop, and totally unrelated to what i did to the front engine mount. so start another thread or search if you want to know more about that...</TD></TR></TABLE>
my bad i didn't mean to thread jack....
my bad i didn't mean to thread jack....
11-01-2005, 06:53 PM
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I used a hotglue gun and melted glue into the front and side mounts, making them pretty much solid, cleaned it up and painted them and they look mint
Im sure you guys have felt hot glue dried before, its ******* hard as hell
Im sure you guys have felt hot glue dried before, its ******* hard as hell
11-01-2005, 08:36 PM
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Re: How I eliminated wheel hop - front engine mount mod - CHEAP (mntuner2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mntuner2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check this website out. A lot better quality for about the same price!
http://www.raktron.com/misc/mt.htm
Its a dsm page put the information is usefull! I did this mod with the windo-weld on the front and left mounts and I have little to no wheel hop anymore on my poor old db9 </TD></TR></TABLE>
do DIY
any idea where to get this 'windo-weld' ?
http://www.raktron.com/misc/mt.htm
Its a dsm page put the information is usefull! I did this mod with the windo-weld on the front and left mounts and I have little to no wheel hop anymore on my poor old db9
</TD></TR></TABLE>do DIY
any idea where to get this 'windo-weld' ?