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I want to buy wheels. How should I decide what size to get?
You need to make your decisions in the following sequence:
1. Decide on a wheel diameter (15", 16", 17", etc) based on looks, performance, availability, tire availability, etc.
2. Decide on what tire size(s) work best with that wheel diameter on your car. For street use, this is normally the tire size that has the same outer diameter as your stock tires, and is no more than 10-20 mm wider than your stock tire size. See the Tire FAQ below for more information on how to choose the best tire size, including recommended sizes for the most popular Honda/Acura models.
3. Decide on which tire make/model you want to get, based on what's available in those size(s), and on what your needs are (performance, weather conditions, usage, budget, etc). Again, see the Tire FAQ below for questions to consider when finding the best tire for your needs. Feel free to create a topic on the forum to ask for advice.
4. Look up the specs for approved rim widths to help you determine the rim width for that model and size of tire. You can find the specs on the tire manufacturer's website or on the website of tire dealers like the Tire Rack. You should keep the rim width within the range of approved rim widths. You may want to pick a width in the middle of the range; the one at the widest end of the range may make the tire look a bit "stretched", and at the narrowest end may make the tire look "bulging". But anywhere in the range should be okay for safety purposes.
5. Find out the best offset for your wheels and tires, based on the rim width and your car. There's no magic formula; you may have to ask those who have tried different rims. Remember that offset depends on the wheel width, so a given number for a wheel of one width may position the wheel the same as a different number for a wheel of a different width. You can convert offsets to adjust for differences in width using this wheel offset calculator.
6. Then you can find out which wheels come in the rim, width, and offset you need, as well as the bolt pattern and center bore your car's hubs require.
Should I get 17s?
Unless they are for a Prelude, S2K, Accord, NSX, etc... No, but they will fit other cars.
Should I get 18s?
Unless they are for an S2K or NSX... No.
Should I get x wheel or y wheel? aka What do you think of this wheel?
Grow up, make your own decisions.
Will x wheels fit my car?
First, check the bolt pattern.
Acura | Honda
Second, check the offset. See offset answer above.
Third, check the hub bore, you may want hubcentric rings.
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(NOTE: These rules can and will be enforced with Point Deduction, if deemed necessary!)
I want to buy wheels. How should I decide what size to get?
You need to make your decisions in the following sequence:
1. Decide on a wheel diameter (15", 16", 17", etc) based on looks, performance, availability, tire availability, etc.
2. Decide on what tire size(s) work best with that wheel diameter on your car. For street use, this is normally the tire size that has the same outer diameter as your stock tires, and is no more than 10-20 mm wider than your stock tire size. See the Tire FAQ below for more information on how to choose the best tire size, including recommended sizes for the most popular Honda/Acura models.
3. Decide on which tire make/model you want to get, based on what's available in those size(s), and on what your needs are (performance, weather conditions, usage, budget, etc). Again, see the Tire FAQ below for questions to consider when finding the best tire for your needs. Feel free to create a topic on the forum to ask for advice.
4. Look up the specs for approved rim widths to help you determine the rim width for that model and size of tire. You can find the specs on the tire manufacturer's website or on the website of tire dealers like the Tire Rack. You should keep the rim width within the range of approved rim widths. You may want to pick a width in the middle of the range; the one at the widest end of the range may make the tire look a bit "stretched", and at the narrowest end may make the tire look "bulging". But anywhere in the range should be okay for safety purposes.
5. Find out the best offset for your wheels and tires, based on the rim width and your car. There's no magic formula; you may have to ask those who have tried different rims. Remember that offset depends on the wheel width, so a given number for a wheel of one width may position the wheel the same as a different number for a wheel of a different width. You can convert offsets to adjust for differences in width using this wheel offset calculator.
6. Then you can find out which wheels come in the rim, width, and offset you need, as well as the bolt pattern and center bore your car's hubs require.
Should I get 17s?
Unless they are for a Prelude, S2K, Accord, NSX, etc... No, but they will fit other cars.
Should I get 18s?
Unless they are for an S2K or NSX... No.
Should I get x wheel or y wheel? aka What do you think of this wheel?
Grow up, make your own decisions.
Will x wheels fit my car?
First, check the bolt pattern.
Acura | Honda
Second, check the offset. See offset answer above.
Third, check the hub bore, you may want hubcentric rings.
http://justforwheels.com/index...k=GHR</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: wheels (myhondaaccord03)
I don't think it's terrible if you get wheels one inch bigger (which would be 18's) but I wouldn't go any larger than that.
Downsides of wheels that are too large for your car - assuming you get tires that keep the outer diameter the same - are that they (and the tires) weigh more (which affects performance) and they (and the tires) cost more. They are also more susceptible to damage from potholes.
Again, I don't think a "plus one" fitment (one inch larger than stock) is all that bad, but I wouldn't go any bigger.
What kind of '03 Accord do you have? Coupe or sedan? 4 cylinder or V6? EX, LX, etc? Let us know and we can advise you on tire sizing.
Downsides of wheels that are too large for your car - assuming you get tires that keep the outer diameter the same - are that they (and the tires) weigh more (which affects performance) and they (and the tires) cost more. They are also more susceptible to damage from potholes.
Again, I don't think a "plus one" fitment (one inch larger than stock) is all that bad, but I wouldn't go any bigger.
What kind of '03 Accord do you have? Coupe or sedan? 4 cylinder or V6? EX, LX, etc? Let us know and we can advise you on tire sizing.
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Re: wheels (myhondaaccord03)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondaaccord03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My 03 accord is a 2Dr Ex-V6. i was just wondering because im thinking about changing that brake system and i thought i might need bigger wheels for that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Based on your wheel size, sounds like you have the six-speed version. Nice car! Six-speeds came with 215/50-17 tires, automatics with 205/60-16.
I thought those cars have pretty big brakes to begin with; I'm not sure why you're thinking of changing them. In fact, for better braking, a better step to take is usually to get better tires. Most street cars have their braking performance limited by their tires, not their brakes. Unless you're taking the car on the track, and already have R compound track tires (or supersticky street tires).
As for braking performance, you can usually improve performance with a step up in brake pads; for example, the Hawk HP+ is a good improvement on most cars, a good pad that works well on the track as well as on the street. And if you're taking your car to the track, you can even get more aggressive pads that are designed for track use. I don't know if you've thought about that or tried it, but it would be a whole lot cheaper than replacing your calipers and wheels and tires.
Also, if you decide to get bigger calipers anyway, ask the vendor about wheel sizing. A lot of big brake kits are fine with 17" wheels like the ones you already have. So again, you might not need those bigger wheels for this purpose.
If you're doing this for looks, or if you've already thought about or tried these things, feel free; I just thought I'd offer the option because you may not have to do anything so drastic (or spend that much money) to get the braking performance you're looking for.
If you DO decide to get 18" wheels, for whatever reason, the tire size to get is 215/45-18. Most tires this size are approved for mounting on wheels 7.0-8.0 inches wide. I would try for 18x7.5, but you could also go with 18x7 or 18x8 without problems. I'm not sure about offsets (which depend on which width you get).
Based on your wheel size, sounds like you have the six-speed version. Nice car! Six-speeds came with 215/50-17 tires, automatics with 205/60-16.
I thought those cars have pretty big brakes to begin with; I'm not sure why you're thinking of changing them. In fact, for better braking, a better step to take is usually to get better tires. Most street cars have their braking performance limited by their tires, not their brakes. Unless you're taking the car on the track, and already have R compound track tires (or supersticky street tires).
As for braking performance, you can usually improve performance with a step up in brake pads; for example, the Hawk HP+ is a good improvement on most cars, a good pad that works well on the track as well as on the street. And if you're taking your car to the track, you can even get more aggressive pads that are designed for track use. I don't know if you've thought about that or tried it, but it would be a whole lot cheaper than replacing your calipers and wheels and tires.
Also, if you decide to get bigger calipers anyway, ask the vendor about wheel sizing. A lot of big brake kits are fine with 17" wheels like the ones you already have. So again, you might not need those bigger wheels for this purpose.
If you're doing this for looks, or if you've already thought about or tried these things, feel free; I just thought I'd offer the option because you may not have to do anything so drastic (or spend that much money) to get the braking performance you're looking for.
If you DO decide to get 18" wheels, for whatever reason, the tire size to get is 215/45-18. Most tires this size are approved for mounting on wheels 7.0-8.0 inches wide. I would try for 18x7.5, but you could also go with 18x7 or 18x8 without problems. I'm not sure about offsets (which depend on which width you get).
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Re: wheels (nsxtasy)
oh thanks for the info, maybe i should just get better pads then, how much would you say good brake pads would cost me? i just feel like the safer the better because i often get caught up on driving fast and im afraid i wouldnt be able to brake on time and i really dont want an accident or anytihng..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondaaccord03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh thanks for the info, maybe i should just get better pads then, how much would you say good brake pads would cost me? i just feel like the safer the better because i often get caught up on driving fast and im afraid i wouldnt be able to brake on time and i really dont want an accident or anytihng..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, as I mentioned above, the first thing to do is make sure you have really good tires; higher-performing tires will shorten your stopping distances. And the tires are usually the limiting factor in stopping performance. The bigger advantage of higher-performance brake pads for the racetrack is their ability to stand up to the much greater heat experienced on the track.
However, to answer your question, selecting brake pads is usually a trade-off among performance (how much grip the pads have), temperature range (track-only pads generally don't grip when cold but stand up to heat), dust, noise (squealing), price, etc. For street use, you generally don't want pads that squeal a lot, and you may or may not tolerate a lot of dust, and you want performance, and some people are price-sensitive. I use my cars on the track as well as the street (without changing brake pads when going from one to the other) and I don't want pads that squeal a lot. I like the Hawk HP+ (HP Plus) pads because they have a very nice bite to them, and they handle heat well. They don't squeal at all for me, although I occasionally hear someone say that theirs squeal. The one downside is that they create a fair amount of dust. TH Motorsports sells these for your car for $106.64 front (Hawk Part #: HB366N.681) and $75.54 rear (Hawk Part #: HB145N.570). If the dust is a concern and you're willing to accept less grip as the trade-off for less dust, you might consider the Hawk HPS brake pads, which TH sells for $85.31 front (HB366F.681) and $54.74 rear (HB145F.570); you might also stick with the stock pads ($43.28 front, $48.79 rear at San Leandro Honda. I do not recommend getting cheap aftermarket brake pads, the kind you might get at your local auto parts store, as they are often not as good as stock pads.
Well, as I mentioned above, the first thing to do is make sure you have really good tires; higher-performing tires will shorten your stopping distances. And the tires are usually the limiting factor in stopping performance. The bigger advantage of higher-performance brake pads for the racetrack is their ability to stand up to the much greater heat experienced on the track.
However, to answer your question, selecting brake pads is usually a trade-off among performance (how much grip the pads have), temperature range (track-only pads generally don't grip when cold but stand up to heat), dust, noise (squealing), price, etc. For street use, you generally don't want pads that squeal a lot, and you may or may not tolerate a lot of dust, and you want performance, and some people are price-sensitive. I use my cars on the track as well as the street (without changing brake pads when going from one to the other) and I don't want pads that squeal a lot. I like the Hawk HP+ (HP Plus) pads because they have a very nice bite to them, and they handle heat well. They don't squeal at all for me, although I occasionally hear someone say that theirs squeal. The one downside is that they create a fair amount of dust. TH Motorsports sells these for your car for $106.64 front (Hawk Part #: HB366N.681) and $75.54 rear (Hawk Part #: HB145N.570). If the dust is a concern and you're willing to accept less grip as the trade-off for less dust, you might consider the Hawk HPS brake pads, which TH sells for $85.31 front (HB366F.681) and $54.74 rear (HB145F.570); you might also stick with the stock pads ($43.28 front, $48.79 rear at San Leandro Honda. I do not recommend getting cheap aftermarket brake pads, the kind you might get at your local auto parts store, as they are often not as good as stock pads.
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i think i will do that then. but since high performance brake pads and tires are for race tracks, i understand that it would help a lot at high speed, but would they also be as helpful when im not going fast? i guess what im trying to ask is, does high performance brake pads and tires benefit at high speeds or does it have better brake power at ALL speed? and is there any downside from switching to racing tires and pads, i feel like they wouldnt last very long at all..
and u said that they dont grip well in the cold, but would you say its performance in the cold is still greater than or equal to the performance of my stock brake pads?
and u said that they dont grip well in the cold, but would you say its performance in the cold is still greater than or equal to the performance of my stock brake pads?
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I made some comments above (for example, pads that need to heat up to be effective) that apply to brake pads designed for the racetrack. The pads I recommended above are designed for the street, and are not track-only pads. All of these - the stock pads, Hawk HP+, and Hawk HPS - work just fine when they are cold, and don't need warmup.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondaaccord03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">since high performance brake pads and tires are for race tracks, i understand that it would help a lot at high speed, but would they also be as helpful when im not going fast? i guess what im trying to ask is, does high performance brake pads and tires benefit at high speeds or does it have better brake power at ALL speed?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Keep in mind that I'm not recommending (to you) pads and tires that are designed for the racetrack, since you are not using your car on the racetrack. The reason I mentioned tires is that higher-performance street tires will shorten your braking distances in everyday local and highway driving, at normal speeds on those roads. And in everyday driving, assuming you are using stock pads or better, your brake pads are not usually the limiting factor in your braking distances; your tires are. So even if you get better brake pads, they won't necessarily shorten your stopping distances.
Your car came from the factory with the Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 all-season tire. I don't know if that's what you still have on the car, or if you have some other tire. It's a good choice in its market segment of all-season tires that combine performance with comfort and quiet ride, what the Tire Rack calls "Grand Touring All-Season tires". If you're interested in getting higher performance tires, you could get "Ultra High Performance All-Season tires", which will give you better performance (including handling as well as braking) but may not be quite as comfortable. In 215/50-17, the Kumho ASX is an excellent tire in this segment, at a very reasonable price ($93/tire at the Tire Rack). If you wanted even better tire performance, you could get a second set of wheels (even basic steel wheels, if you want) so that you could use all-season or winter tires in the winter, and summer tires the rest of the year. Summer tires don't do well in snow or frigid cold, so you wouldn't want to use them in winter, but the rest of the year, good summer tires have better performance than all-season tires.
So if you're really interested in improving your car's braking ability, those are some tires that will accomplish that for you.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondaaccord03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there any downside from switching to racing tires and pads, i feel like they wouldnt last very long at all..</TD></TR></TABLE>
As noted above, I am not recommending racing tires or pads. If you are looking for better braking performance, I am recommending better street tires first, and then if you want, you can get better pads. But the tires will do more to help your braking performance in street use.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondaaccord03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">since high performance brake pads and tires are for race tracks, i understand that it would help a lot at high speed, but would they also be as helpful when im not going fast? i guess what im trying to ask is, does high performance brake pads and tires benefit at high speeds or does it have better brake power at ALL speed?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Keep in mind that I'm not recommending (to you) pads and tires that are designed for the racetrack, since you are not using your car on the racetrack. The reason I mentioned tires is that higher-performance street tires will shorten your braking distances in everyday local and highway driving, at normal speeds on those roads. And in everyday driving, assuming you are using stock pads or better, your brake pads are not usually the limiting factor in your braking distances; your tires are. So even if you get better brake pads, they won't necessarily shorten your stopping distances.
Your car came from the factory with the Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 all-season tire. I don't know if that's what you still have on the car, or if you have some other tire. It's a good choice in its market segment of all-season tires that combine performance with comfort and quiet ride, what the Tire Rack calls "Grand Touring All-Season tires". If you're interested in getting higher performance tires, you could get "Ultra High Performance All-Season tires", which will give you better performance (including handling as well as braking) but may not be quite as comfortable. In 215/50-17, the Kumho ASX is an excellent tire in this segment, at a very reasonable price ($93/tire at the Tire Rack). If you wanted even better tire performance, you could get a second set of wheels (even basic steel wheels, if you want) so that you could use all-season or winter tires in the winter, and summer tires the rest of the year. Summer tires don't do well in snow or frigid cold, so you wouldn't want to use them in winter, but the rest of the year, good summer tires have better performance than all-season tires.
So if you're really interested in improving your car's braking ability, those are some tires that will accomplish that for you.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondaaccord03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there any downside from switching to racing tires and pads, i feel like they wouldnt last very long at all..</TD></TR></TABLE>
As noted above, I am not recommending racing tires or pads. If you are looking for better braking performance, I am recommending better street tires first, and then if you want, you can get better pads. But the tires will do more to help your braking performance in street use.
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oh, then im definately going to get better tires. since i dont want to change tires every 6 months i tihnk im going to stick to all season tires. are the tires, Kumho Asx, all-season tires, and do u recommend it or is there any other tires that you think would have higher performance for all season (regardless of price)?
and i feel like i would still like to change the brake pads after i get the new tires. since u recommended "hawk" brake pads i wanna look into buying that, buh is there any others that you would recommend for everyday local and highway driving and which do u think would be the better one? and (im sorry if i asked this before) is there any like factors in the performance of hawk brake pads, like when and how it works best? but nevertheless it would be better performance than that of the stock breaks under every condition, right?
and i feel like i would still like to change the brake pads after i get the new tires. since u recommended "hawk" brake pads i wanna look into buying that, buh is there any others that you would recommend for everyday local and highway driving and which do u think would be the better one? and (im sorry if i asked this before) is there any like factors in the performance of hawk brake pads, like when and how it works best? but nevertheless it would be better performance than that of the stock breaks under every condition, right?
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and also i was looking at the tires for my car, and i see Sumitomo HTR+
(Ultra High Performance All-Season) tires and then grand touring all season tires. i dunt know what the difference is but and if they're good? and also why is grand touring tires more expensive than the ultra high performance tires?
(Ultra High Performance All-Season) tires and then grand touring all season tires. i dunt know what the difference is but and if they're good? and also why is grand touring tires more expensive than the ultra high performance tires?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondaaccord03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are the tires, Kumho Asx, all-season tires, and do u recommend it or is there any other tires that you think would have higher performance for all season (regardless of price)?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, the Kumho ASX is an all-season tire. The differences (other than price) are relatively small, but the Goodyear Eagle F1 All-Season ($145/tire) and the Yokohama Avid 4Ws ($116/tire) are slightly better all-around than the ASX. Two other all-season tires (Pirelli PZero Nero M+S and Michelin Pilot Sport A/S) would also be better but these other two aren't available in 215/50-17.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondaaccord03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and i feel like i would still like to change the brake pads after i get the new tires. since u recommended "hawk" brake pads i wanna look into buying that, buh is there any others that you would recommend for everyday local and highway driving and which do u think would be the better one? and (im sorry if i asked this before) is there any like factors in the performance of hawk brake pads, like when and how it works best? but nevertheless it would be better performance than that of the stock breaks under every condition, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hawk is the brand name, and they make a lot of different kinds of brake pads. The HP+ definitely have better performance under all conditions than the stock pads. The HPS may be better than stock, I'm not exactly sure; in any case, it's a step below the HP+.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondaaccord03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and also i was looking at the tires for my car, and i see Sumitomo HTR+
(Ultra High Performance All-Season) tires and then grand touring all season tires. i dunt know what the difference is but and if they're good? and also why is grand touring tires more expensive than the ultra high performance tires?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The Sumitomo HTR+ isn't quite as good as the Kumho ASX, but it's close; you can see a comparison test here. The Sumitomo is less money though.
Ultra high performance all-seasons put the emphasis on performance, whereas Grand Touring all-seasons balance that with ride comfort and noise. Why are Grand Touring tires more expensive? They aren't. If you compare tires from the same manufacturer - for example, the Goodyear Eagle F1 All-Season ($145) against the Goodyear Eagle ResponsEdge ($132), or the Kumho ASX ($93) against the Kumho Solus KH16 ($97) - the price of the two kinds of tires is very similar. However, several of the grand touring all-season tires are from Michelin, whose tires tend to be very expensive, and who doesn't have ultra high performance all-season tires in your size.
Yes, the Kumho ASX is an all-season tire. The differences (other than price) are relatively small, but the Goodyear Eagle F1 All-Season ($145/tire) and the Yokohama Avid 4Ws ($116/tire) are slightly better all-around than the ASX. Two other all-season tires (Pirelli PZero Nero M+S and Michelin Pilot Sport A/S) would also be better but these other two aren't available in 215/50-17.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondaaccord03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and i feel like i would still like to change the brake pads after i get the new tires. since u recommended "hawk" brake pads i wanna look into buying that, buh is there any others that you would recommend for everyday local and highway driving and which do u think would be the better one? and (im sorry if i asked this before) is there any like factors in the performance of hawk brake pads, like when and how it works best? but nevertheless it would be better performance than that of the stock breaks under every condition, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hawk is the brand name, and they make a lot of different kinds of brake pads. The HP+ definitely have better performance under all conditions than the stock pads. The HPS may be better than stock, I'm not exactly sure; in any case, it's a step below the HP+.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by myhondaaccord03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and also i was looking at the tires for my car, and i see Sumitomo HTR+
(Ultra High Performance All-Season) tires and then grand touring all season tires. i dunt know what the difference is but and if they're good? and also why is grand touring tires more expensive than the ultra high performance tires?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The Sumitomo HTR+ isn't quite as good as the Kumho ASX, but it's close; you can see a comparison test here. The Sumitomo is less money though.
Ultra high performance all-seasons put the emphasis on performance, whereas Grand Touring all-seasons balance that with ride comfort and noise. Why are Grand Touring tires more expensive? They aren't. If you compare tires from the same manufacturer - for example, the Goodyear Eagle F1 All-Season ($145) against the Goodyear Eagle ResponsEdge ($132), or the Kumho ASX ($93) against the Kumho Solus KH16 ($97) - the price of the two kinds of tires is very similar. However, several of the grand touring all-season tires are from Michelin, whose tires tend to be very expensive, and who doesn't have ultra high performance all-season tires in your size.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by htsang07 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would you say that tires labled as "Ultra high performance" is actually higher performance than others such as just "high performance" or is it just a lable.?</TD></TR></TABLE>
That depends. If the tire manufacturer is labeling them as such, it may or may not mean anything. When the Tire Rack classifies them as such, then it's definitely because their performance is higher than those in the "high performance" category.
To the OP - are you having any problems with your brakes? Just wondering why you're so concerned about upgrading your braking performance. Not that there's anything wrong with that
but if you're having some kind of problem, it may need something else.
That depends. If the tire manufacturer is labeling them as such, it may or may not mean anything. When the Tire Rack classifies them as such, then it's definitely because their performance is higher than those in the "high performance" category.
To the OP - are you having any problems with your brakes? Just wondering why you're so concerned about upgrading your braking performance. Not that there's anything wrong with that
but if you're having some kind of problem, it may need something else.
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Re: wheels (myhondaaccord03)
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Congratulations on the car then! Hope it exceeds your highest expectations.
Just a note - you may want to hold off on any tire and/or brake upgrades, and just drive it and see how you like it. The factory brakes (and even the stock Michelin tires) are quite good, and should certainly be safe. Yes, you can increase performance by taking the steps described above, but you really don't need to do so. (And if you're really interested in increasing performance at some point, the biggest step you can take, and one that is very easy, is to get a spare set of wheels, so that you can use one set of tires (all-seasons or winter tires) in the winter, and the other set of wheels with summer tires in the summer.)
Good luck!
Congratulations on the car then! Hope it exceeds your highest expectations.
Just a note - you may want to hold off on any tire and/or brake upgrades, and just drive it and see how you like it. The factory brakes (and even the stock Michelin tires) are quite good, and should certainly be safe. Yes, you can increase performance by taking the steps described above, but you really don't need to do so. (And if you're really interested in increasing performance at some point, the biggest step you can take, and one that is very easy, is to get a spare set of wheels, so that you can use one set of tires (all-seasons or winter tires) in the winter, and the other set of wheels with summer tires in the summer.)
Good luck!
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Re: wheels (nsxtasy)
thanks, and yes its a very nice car and faster than i expected it to be. and i guess ill stick to these brakes for maybe half a year, but i also wanna ask if it would be better with drilled rotors. i kinda want them, they look snazzy lols. but seriously i feel like they would help, and when i have enough money to do so, im definately getting another set of wheels and tires.
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Re: wheels (myhondaaccord03)
Ya, if you are worried about safety and performance I would agree with Ken and ditch the idea of getting all seasons. Get summers for the summer and winters for, well, the winter. The best brake pads and rotors aren't going to make one bit of difference if you are on snow.
But for now congratulations on your new car, see how you like it, then make a decision on what you wish to change. A new set of 18" rims and tread is a fair chunk of change.
But for now congratulations on your new car, see how you like it, then make a decision on what you wish to change. A new set of 18" rims and tread is a fair chunk of change.
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