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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Looking for some new tires to buy and need some advise. I have a 00 Civic EX with 17x7.5" rims and a 205/40/17 tire. I need some tires bad!!! I am also running a lot of camber right now cause of the lack of a camber kit on my car. I need to get one. What would be a good summer tire to get and it needs to fit in my budget of around 300 or less. Need all four tires. Also what would be a good camber kit to get? I think its around -3.0 to -3.5 degrees of negative camber. Also are their any tires out there to account for the negative camber? Thanks for the advise.
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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Camber won't really wear your tires as fast as toe. If your tires are wearing quickly you should get your toe checked first. As for tires, some claim they work better with higher camber, but I would ignore that marketing mumbo jumbo and get a good tire. In your size, I would recommend:

Best combination of Dry and Wet handling: Goodyear F1 GS-D3
Best bang for your buck: Avon Tech M550, Fuzion ZRi or Dunlop Direzza DZ101 (there is also a $50 mail in rebate for these)

Jon
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaF1Fanatic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Camber won't really wear your tires as fast as toe. If your tires are wearing quickly you should get your toe checked first. As for tires, some claim they work better with higher camber, but I would ignore that marketing mumbo jumbo and get a good tire. In your size, I would recommend:

Best combination of Dry and Wet handling: Goodyear F1 GS-D3
Best bang for your buck: Avon Tech M550, Fuzion ZRi or Dunlop Direzza DZ101 (there is also a $50 mail in rebate for these)

Jon</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree with the goodyear F1 GS-D3 for best combination.

But for best bang for the buck the Kumho SPT wins hands down. I would put the Avon tech M550 right after with the ES100 and the Dunlop Direzza DZ101.

The Fuzion ZRI are horrible tires and are no where near anything mentioned above!
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveSi677 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I agree with the goodyear F1 GS-D3 for best combination.

But for best bang for the buck the Kumho SPT wins hands down. I would put the Avon tech M550 right after with the ES100 and the Dunlop Direzza DZ101.

The Fuzion ZRI are horrible tires and are no where near anything mentioned above!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldn't say that Dave, have you seen the tests on the Tire Rack where the ZRi beat both the ES100 and DZ101 head to head? If anything, I would say that the DZ101 is not quit in the same league, but it is cheaper.

READ THESE:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...id=57

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...id=78

The Ecsta SPT is not even available in the size he is looking for, hence me recommending the other choices. Also, the Tech M500 is a slightly better tire than the ES100, but is more expensive.

Jon
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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Hmmm, where to begin...

The Kumho SPT is in stock at the Tire Rack in 205/40-17, for $69/tire plus shipping. Discount Tire has it for the same price with free shipping, which is even better.

I suppose I could just stop right there, since the SPT is better than the ZRi or DZ101. The SPT is a great tire and this is a great price. Go for it!

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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Okay, a couple more notes.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaF1Fanatic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Best combination of Dry and Wet handling: Goodyear F1 GS-D3</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed, but those cost $125 apiece, which is above the OP's budget.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaF1Fanatic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Best bang for your buck: Avon Tech M550, Fuzion ZRi or Dunlop Direzza DZ101</TD></TR></TABLE>

Avon makes two tires and you are getting their names confused. The Tech M500 is their budget performance summer tire. It is an excellent tire for "bang for the buck". It's better than the other tires here (with the exception of the more expensive Goodyear). It's also slightly more expensive, $77 plus shipping at the Tire Rack. It's a good recommendation.

The Tech M500 summer tire should not be confused with the Avon Tech M550 A/S, which is their all-season tire (and a pretty good one, for those who need the flexibility - and compromises - that all-seasons offer).

The Fuzion ZRi isn't a bad tire. It's just not as good as the Avon or the SPT, and the SPT is cheaper than the ZRi, too.

Similarly, the DZ101 isn't a bad tire, but it's not as good as the Avon or the SPT; with the rebate, the DZ101 is a few bucks cheaper than the SPT at the Tire Rack, but not as cheap as the SPT at Discount Tire.

The ES100 is back ordered in this size.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Thanks for the advise guys. So im thinking im going with Kumho SPT tire. What about the camber kit? Another problem im having is that when im driving down the street my steering wheel will move side to side on an uneven road, and more when i come to a stop. I just had an alignment done not to long ago. Do you think this could be the cause of the camber issue. Cause my camber is not even all the way around the car.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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That is really odd, when I looked UHP 205/40R17s up yesterday, the SPT wasn't listed but now it comes up as closeout, but I agree, get that tire if you can.

Jon

EDIT: I did make the dumb typo and completely forgot to look at DTD, my fault.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboEK9Coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the advise guys. So im thinking im going with Kumho SPT tire. What about the camber kit? Another problem im having is that when im driving down the street my steering wheel will move side to side on an uneven road, and more when i come to a stop. I just had an alignment done not to long ago. Do you think this could be the cause of the camber issue. Cause my camber is not even all the way around the car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

There are several possibilities. The car could be misaligned. Or you could have a suspension problem (bent control arm, worn bushings, etc).
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