I'm would like to do a 16x8 wheel on my 99 civic hatch...

...and yes I want to stretch the tires and have a decent sized dish to the wheels, and I have no problems with rolling my fenders to get these buggers to fit.

The problem is I can't find the correct setup.

This is the look I'm going for:

RHDIntegraXSi's DA.
Wheels: Sportmax 502's - 16x8 with a 0 offset
Tires: 205/40/16's


So basically I know that I'll have to run a 205/40/16 size tire, But what offset will I need on the 16x8 wheel? 15?

Somebody please help, and don't bitch about how "ghey" it is.

Thanks.




Modified by LEV at 3:19 PM 10/30/2007

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LEV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So basically I know that I'll have to run a 205/40/16 size tire</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, you don't! 205/40-16 is much too small for a '99 Civic; it's the right size for really old Civics (pre-'96). For 16" wheels on any '97-00 Civic, the best matching tire sizes are 205/45-16 or 215/45-16. Either of these sizes will work. Most tires come in either 205/45-16 or 215/45-16, not both. So decide on which tire you want, and get whichever of these two sizes you want.

Also, 16x8 is too wide for 205/45-16. Most 205/45-16 tires are approved only for mounting on wheels 6.5-7.5 inches wide. Get 16x7 wheels, not 16x8.

I'm not sure about the answer to your question about the best offset; hopefully someone else will respond.

Brief tire recommendations:

a. If you care ONLY about dry traction, and can live with rapid treadwear and/or so-so performance in rain - such as if you will also autocross with these tires - get the Falken Azenis RT-615 in 215/45-16.

b. If you also care about treadwear and wet performance, but you still want excellent dry traction performance too and don't mind spending a bit more for a better tire, get the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 in 205/45-16.

c. If you want treadwear and wet performance and decent dry performance but you'd like to spend a bit less on your tires, get the Kumho SPT in 205/45-16.

d. If you need to use these tires in snow and frigid cold in winter as well as in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year, get the Kumho ASX (all-season) in 205/45-16.

 

Thanks for the info.

Sportmax's website has the least amount of information on it ever.

 

nsxtasy, what do you mean that the 205/40/16 is too small? Say for my 2000 Si. Do you mean too small as in sidewall? Do you mean it will look dumb? Is it bad performance wise? Just curious, I was considering getting that size for my Buddy Club Sf.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4EN[sic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">]nsxtasy, what do you mean that the 205/40/16 is too small? Say for my 2000 Si. Do you mean too small as in sidewall? Do you mean it will look dumb? Is it bad performance wise? Just curious, I was considering getting that size for my Buddy Club Sf.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He is talking about the overall diameter of the tire. If it is too small it will lead to odometer/speedometer inaccuracies. Also it will cause more fuel consumption and higher RPMs on the highway for a given speed.


OP: Careful with a 0 offset rim on a 99 hatch. It may lead to rubbing. Make sure you talk to someone how has a similar set up to insure that it does not rub.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by old man neri &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He is talking about the overall diameter of the tire. If it is too small it will lead to odometer/speedometer inaccuracies. Also it will cause more fuel consumption and higher RPMs on the highway for a given speed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, exactly. That's why it's best to choose a size whose outer diameter is as close as possible to the outer diameter of the stock size tire. With 16" wheels on a '97-00 Civic, both 205/45-16 and 215/45-16 are within 1 percent of the stock size (185/65-14 or 195/55-15). 205/40-16 is about 3 percent smaller; that's the best matching 16" size for older (pre-'96) Civics, which came with much smaller wheels than your car. (Don't forget, the best tire size depends on the car, not just on the wheels you get.)

 

16x8 is gonna be a bit to big for an ek i believe.

im running 15x7 195/55/15 +20 offset enkei 92's on my ek, rolled fenders and tucking all the way around and its perfect.

the front inner fenders constantly rub with my offset and width. i can't imagine what 16x8 would feel like but im sure youll be rubbin your fenders and chewing up your tires all day long.

n im not talking bout tire wear, im talking about your tires gettin chewed up by the metal parts inside your wheel well.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mormonboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">16x8 is gonna be a bit to big for an ek i believe.

im running 15x7 195/55/15 +20 offset enkei 92's on my ek, rolled fenders and tucking all the way around and its perfect.

the front inner fenders constantly rub with my offset and width. i can't imagine what 16x8 would feel like but im sure youll be rubbin your fenders and chewing up your tires all day long.

n im not talking bout tire wear, im talking about your tires gettin chewed up by the metal parts inside your wheel well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Rubbing is primarily a function of tire size and positioning (positioning is a function of offset, based on wheel width), not on wheel size (other than how the width and offset work together to determine positioning). 195/55-15 is a good tire size for a '97-00 Civic; with the right offset, there shouldn't be any rubbing at all, even without rolling fenders, unless your car is overslammed.

 

rubbing mostly occurs when the wheel is turned full lock to lock, or when the car is going over uneven pavement like off a driveway or something. other than that, it doesnt rub.

but i think with an offset like 16x8, you'd rub when turning the wheel lock to lock no doubt if you plan on being slammed like that DA up above.

heres a pic of my car

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mormonboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rubbing mostly occurs when the wheel is turned full lock to lock, or when the car is going over uneven pavement like off a driveway or something. other than that, it doesnt rub.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup. But even though that's when it rubs, it's still a function of the tire size and positioning. And since that particular tire size should be okay, it's the positioning that's causing it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mormonboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but i think with an offset like 16x8, you'd rub when turning the wheel lock to lock no doubt if you plan on being slammed like that DA up above.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, it still doesn't depend on the wheel size. 16x8 is a wheel size, not an offset. It all goes back to tire size and positioning. For example, comparing 205/45-16 with 195/55-15, the 205/45-16 is actually slightly smaller in diameter, which (in terms of clearance) makes up for the fact that it's 10 mm wider. So it probably will need about the same amount of clearance as the stock size tire. As long as the car isn't overslammed, and the wheels have the proper offset to position the tire in the wheel well where it will have maximum clearance, they should clear without rubbing. Same thing is true for yours. Again, I bet with the right offset yours wouldn't rub at all, and with no need to roll fenders.