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Old 03-24-2010, 04:21 PM
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i bought what i was told was a civic type r tranny, the case says s4c and its lsd but when i opened it up n counted the ring gear it was-64 and the final drive was-15, so thats a 4.26 gear ratio right? isnt that low for type r? i also counted the number of teeth for every gear on both shafts if no one can answer using this info i will post the rest.
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countershaft-1st-42 input shaft-1st-13 (teeth)
2nd-40 2nd-19
3rd-35 3rd-24
4th-31 4th-28
5th-28 5th-33
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also i need to replace the ring gear and final drive cause they r both tore up. any suggestions on where to buy them and what ratio would be best for my setup:
b20vtec 12.0 c/r,skunk2 stage2 cams, dc header,2.5"exhaust,skunk2 pro series i/m n 68mm t/b. runnin a 205/50/r15 tire for street/strip use so nothing to aggresive but good in the 1/4
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it also has 15 bolts in the ring gear
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help me
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anyone know about weird trannys? lol
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bumppp it up
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too many bumps to help.
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http://shop.synchrotech-transmissions.com/
they have some final gear make you choice and they will help you
another for ratio
http://www.teammfactory.com/gear-calculator
hope this help
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kinda need to know what tranny i have so i know what to order the gears for nobody seems to know about a 15 bolt ring gear for honda lsd
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it is a type r tranny for sure since its s4c and if on that same stamp it says LSD well it typre r but if the LSD isnt from factory well it looks like a S.i tranny,those are really short gears gotta find from which type r is it from,spec ect...
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called mfactory and they dont sell ring gears for the 15 bolt or the 14 bolt honda ring gear lsd. so i would also have to buy a new lsd in order to get the stuff from them. does anyone know anywhere that sells ring gears for the 15 bolt design? or maybe a final drive for my spare lsd which is a 14 bolt honda lsd with a 66 tooth ring gear?
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will si final drive work with the 66 tooth type r ring gear?
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That sounds like an SiR LSD not an Type R LSD

It has b16/ctr/USD ITR gear ratios with an SIR LSD and an LS final drive.

Sounds like some pieced together a pile of parts.

H-Motors is one of the cheapest places I have found the OEM 4.7 ITR final drive.

I would also try to source a used ITR LSD and go that route if your on a budget.
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u talkin bout the 15 bolt 64 tooth ring gear lsd is an sir? or the 14 bolt 66 tooth ring gear lsd? i can use the spare 14 bolt 66 tooth lsd i have then i would just need a final drive that works with it. so what f.d. do i need to buy?
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I suspect its a SIR viscous LSD which as far as I have seen no one makes a replacement final drive for.

Some info here:

https://honda-tech.com/forums/transmission-drivetrain-127/itr-lsd-into-b16-tranny-%2A%2A%2Ahelp%2A%2A%2A%2A-2570962/
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thanks that info helped some especially the part about the ls countershaft not working with type r 66 tooth gear because i was gonna try it seeing how i have one laying around n it is 15 tooth. so i have to get an si 15 tooth countershaft to work with 66 tooth type r ring gear. in order to use spare lsd. but if iwanted to use my current lsd (4.26)ratio i would have to find a rare 64 tooth 15 bolt SiR ring gear but then could use the 15 tooth ls countershaft with it. did all that come out correct???
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Both parts should be from the same set. Mixing gears is not advised.
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15 bolt b series lsd’s/ ring gears and unique to the b16 88-91 y1 cable transmissions which were optional lsd’s. they run the small spline clutch discs. If you still have it I’ll buy it haha. If this was found in a hydro case someone swapped the gear set into it.
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