I was at a friends shop and I took a shot of what he claims is a prototype race cam. Can someone here recognize the make and model?

 

..??? Have a better pic.??? can't see it..


[Modified by JDM_DOHC_SiR, 10:42 PM 1/5/2002]

 

yeah that pic sucks man....go to the left a couple inches

 

i dont have a damn what that is? did it come with new cams caps becasuse i have never sceene cam caps like that. as for the motor my guess is ctr look at the cam caps i have never sceen a ctr motor in real life so that's my guess and it has a ctr/itr manifold.


[Modified by rainforest, 3:22 PM 1/5/2002]


[Modified by rainforest, 3:27 PM 1/5/2002]

 

judgeing by intke manifold its rather a b18b or b18c5 or b16

 

yeah there is no vtec lobe

 

That's not a B18A/B/C, nor is it a B16A/B.

I'm thinking H23?

Oh wait, scratch that. It's a B20 or B21A. Old school prelude.


[Modified by B18C-EJ1, 11:34 AM 1/5/2002]

 

heres a better shot..

anyone?

 

H22?


[Modified by 95CivicSi, 3:35 PM 1/5/2002]

 

Hmm.......H series or B20 maybe.........a better pic would be great.

 

that is not a b20 or b21 (3rd gen) prelude engine. there aren't enough cam bearings or whatever you call them. those engines have I1-6 and E1-6. there were only five on that one. they are also spaced a little differently on those engines. also, the cam gears on on the driver's side of the head, which they are not in that pic. so it must be something else. unless they just aren't attached to that head right now. but still, there is a cam bearing on the edges of both sides of the head for intake and exhaust, which definately isn't on that head.


[Modified by crxplus, 3:35 AM 1/6/2002]

 

how bout a pic of the engine code stamped on the block

 

that's either an ls engine or a non-vtec prelude engine.

 

h23

 

not h23. intake manifold is diff and doesnt have that 2nd smaller cam lobes and the cam caps are different.

i have opened my h23..thats not it :D

 

I can tell you what it is not:
D16A/D16Z/D16Y/ZC
B16A/b16b/B17A/b18c/b20a/b/z
F20b/F20C/F22A/F22B/H22A/H23A
K20A

It looks like it has an ITR manifold though
Cam gears are on the wrong side.

My initial guess was a 3 stage vtec, but its twin cam and the three stage motor
is single cam.

I think its a toyota VVTL-i engine.
And judging by the cam layout, im about 99.9% sure it is.
Perhaps out of the celica

 

SR20DE??

 

Looks like some kind of VTEC-E to me. I know they are only supposed to come in SOHC, but that is how the lobes are set up.

 

The cam gears are on the opposite side of the head, you guys. Unless the pic is reveresed it is not a Honda motor. Then again, the pic can't be reversed because the throttle body (or where is goes) is on the correct side. It's not a Celica motor, the intake manifold isn't right.



And it's not the K20 either.



And the SR20DE dopesn't have variable valve timing. The SR20VE does, but still it doesn't look like that either. The throttle body would be on the other side of the intake manifold...and they use timing chains, not belts (not in the pic anyways).


Can you take more pics? Does he have a block laying around that you can take pics of too?

-Seth


[Modified by miac1, 4:10 PM 1/6/2002]

 

I'm thinking it's a hybrid of some kind. I don't see this being a factory Honda engine at all. Possibly one of the h22 Race engines for the euro Accord Type R's that they use in the touring cup championships where the head is turned around backwards to allow the intake to be a ram air through the grill....

Just a guess.

 

Its not a honda head.
It looks like someone grafted a honda manifold onto a non-honda head.

 

Sgt, you are the first and only person to have guessed it. you are a true honda fan as it is clearly not a honda. I wish i had a price for you or some ****.

its a 2zz-ge yamaha head. I will flowbench the ports soon to see if it will have better VEs against a B-series head.

 

Man, now that i examine that pic more, I dont know how I missed it.
The REAL intake manifold is sitting at the bottom with the fuel injector wires
right there in plain view.

The ITR manifold was a red herring....

So is that the celica motor? I dont know the new toyota classifications.

 

its not a Handa

toyota.. vvtity

 

I want my damn prize too!!!

-Seth


[Modified by miac1, 9:54 PM 1/6/2002]