j's racing carbon fiber intake
skunk2 intake manifold
hondata intake gasket
rc 310 injectors
B&M FPR with gauge
itr cams
itr outer springs
itr LMA's
aem cam gears (rebuilding them with better bolts)
portflow inners
portflow ti retainers
ferrea keepers
jdm itr pistons
gsr rods
honda bearings
itr oilpump with 96+ cover
itr water pump
gsr block/head/crank
mugen baffled oil pan (dont want oil starvation)
spoon sports magnetic plugs
exedy organic race clutch
comptech 6.75lb al. flywheel
itr tranny
ATS fd
sometype of aftermarket shifter bushings
mugen engine mounts
hondata stage 2
comptech 421 header
smsp high flow cat
comptech exhaust

ipsracing and hondasaver like me after all the stuff i bought/gona buy

what else do i need?

dont no one give me any **** i should have gone turbo for cheaper, cause i will continually wup on your *** at a road coarse against your turbo set up.

edit: added mugen oil pan & spoon magneto plugs




[Modified by bob46802, 10:44 PM 9/23/2002]

 

it's all about suspension...what's your suspension setup like?

 

i have koni yellows with H&R oe sports, itr rear sway bar, neuspeed front tower bar, and driving school under my belt.
I am going to get either ground control coilovers, or true choice stage 2 coilovers

 

with all that hardware under the hodd, you will be bumped way up to a class with cars that handle ten times better than your car. no matter how fast your car is, your suspension setup is key when it comes to any kind of racing.

 

Is this for the car in your profile? If so the first thing you should do is get rid of the extra audio. Other than that:
Rear strut tower brace
Poly suspension bushings
Poly motor mount inserts unless the Mugens ARE poly or firmer
Camber kit
Bigger TB
Bigger cams
MSD ignition
MSD coil
Some of my recommendations depend on how far you want to go with it, but that's what I'd be looking to get if I were you.

 

im not racing comptetive, just looking to humble some porsches and vettes at track days

i dont want higher lift cams for reliabilty

bigger tb will be down the line when I have recouped some money

I probably will get camber kit once suspension is done

why is msd stuff necessary?

I am focusing on rebuilding my engine right now, the machine shop is opening up the engine tomorrow. I pretty much already have all the parts above, just not the flywheel

car is designed for overall fun. it will rev very fast, i should be able to beat on it pretty good with out anything letting up.

thanks all for the ideas

 

the reason im doing valvetrain is not for making more power up top, mainly for if i mis shift or in a long sweeper on a road coarse and need to keep revving to still have compsure on my chasis

 

I wouldn't put the MSD stuff as a necessity, but it does what it's meant to do very well. And that is intesify the spark. The stronger your ignition & coil, the wider you can gap your plugs. The wider you can gap your plugs, the larger the spark is that ignites the a/f mixture. The larger the spark that ignites the mixture, the more intense the explosion.

 

dont be knockin stuff you dont know about

i will have soo much better reliabilty than a used jdm motor. it aint even worth joking.

how the hell are itr cams a waste?
when your motor needs to start revving to 9100 to make peak power you start eating away your motor. itr cams have alot of midrange are built excelent, and do not require new 200 timing belts every 25k miles. I have alot of friends who are making +200whp on itr cams with 1.8 liter motor.

aem, that is such garbage, i have had that, and icebox. you need to educate yourself more on the benefits of each

my goal is too not make big hp #'s
read my above posts and dont make ignorant comments.

gsr rods are the same as itr, itr just come better balanced from honda. it doesnt make a difference when everything is getting balanced and blueprinted

why dont you like the ats?
why should i even listen to you when you dont even know the fd ratio?
edumaction is key

mugen's suck, too bad they are road race proven

smsp, is possible down the line, except no carb, and can get dented easily from cali pot holes
smsp high flow cat is carsound you retard

comtech exhaust aint nutting special, sounds good though

 

..and that's it as far as grip racing experience for you goes, just a one-time driving school? I mean, are you saying you've had zero track time? and/or you're a total newb?

(this is just some advice and it's not meant to be take the wrong way)
But, if you are a track newb, you're approaching this thing the w r o n g way if you just wanna smoke a few porsche's & vettes. Your attitude should be more on the learning level such as "I wanna learn how to drive my car on a road course". Then, once you get some driving skills under your belt, go from there. Build yourself up skillwise, before you grow any kind of cocky attitude and make yourself look like an idiot on the track.

You should take your car out, on the track, AS-IS, and get use to your car first, instead of dumping money into building a monster engine. I mean you can do what you want, but look at it from another point of view.....track skills w/decent horsepower output vs. high horespower output & little track experience. I mean, you'll feel pretty shitty when you're getting passed up by some SOHC civic/crx on the track! Have an instructor ride with you at a track event, so he can point out your flaws, show you the line, kick your driving-*** into shape.

Again, don't take this as "**** talking" (if you are)....i'm not.....i'm just givin out some free advice.

...You can do whatever you want though


[Modified by Katman, 9:07 PM 9/23/2002]

 

should have been more clear
over 10 hours of track time in my car

jim russell racing school 1 day at sears point. mostly racing theory, not much car control

2 day skip barber at laguna
lots of cool stuff i have learned there, would recomend it to anyone. it was cool saying high to my instructors over the weekend when I was at the speed world challenge/alms at laguna this weekend.

 

katman:
you are dead on brother about above stuff.
I fully realize that just because I am spending thousands of dollars on my honda I aint gona be fast

now that my car will be more reliable, I will be doing more classes where you an instuctor takes you out on a road coarse and focuses on things needed to be improved on, and not lap times

 

On the track, it's all about 6 things:
-driver
-tires
-suspension
-chassis
-engine (power + cooling)
-brakes

If you're looking to improve your lap time, engine is only a small part of the battle. Though you did mention Seca, one with more elevation change... Well, best of luck to you at the track, be safe out there.

 

Forgot #7 Safety Equip.

 

any more helpfull advice?