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Old May 18, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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i pulled my plugs today since my car was miss firing somewhat and i found the plugs looked...strange. The ground strap is white but around the electrode its black. The engine is a B18A and the plugs are boshe platinum's why do they look like this?


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Old May 18, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Looks like you're running lean......
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Old May 18, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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ok well i have a afc so i can add fuel, it was set when i bought the car and i havent played with it at all so..., my settings are:
RPM LO setting Hi setting
1000 0 -5
1800 -8 -5
2600 -8 -2
3200 -8 -1
3800 -8 0
4000 -8 0
4600 -8 +2
5200 -8 +2
5800 -8 +3
6400 -8 +3
6600 -8 +4
6800 -8 +5
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Old May 18, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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set it to all 0 and install some basic ngk plugs.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 03:34 AM
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ok ill try that, quick question with the safc, when it shows the correction of a neg. valve such as the -8 is it adding fuel of taking away fuel? im confused on this because i know it moddifies the map sensor signal and i didnt know if it ment it was reducing the signal voltage or actully the fuel itself
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Old May 19, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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Did you pull the plugs at idle or after a full throttle run?
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Old May 19, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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i pulled the plugs after driving the car around town a bit dont think i had any full throttle runs then. the plugs are what came in the car and iv plut 5K on the car, didnt pull plugs before i bought car so i dont know what they looked like before
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Old May 19, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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the problem is that they are bosch platinums
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Old May 19, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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What's done to the car to warrant those fuel corrections?

In any case, regular NGK spark plugs work wonders
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Old May 19, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Looks to me you are running a little lean a bit. The white powdery stuff is maybe the fuel additives. Also the black around the outside tells me your startup and idle are a little rich.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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i/h/e, but like i said in a post b4 i didnt set these settings it was set, that is why i posted them, should i just set them all to 0? and also when the afc says a neg value is it taking away fuel or reducing map voltage?
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Old May 19, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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Looks too hot! make sure you have correct plug heat range.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by extra cam needed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks too hot! make sure you have correct plug heat range. </TD></TR></TABLE>

BKR7E-11 NGK,

R5671A-8 4554 (stock #) NGKs for a high comp application.


Modified by LSVTEC 91 Civic at 8:59 PM 5/19/2005
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Old May 19, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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I wouldn't run a 7 series plug. I would run a 6.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 07:49 PM
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those plugs look exactly how mine come out when I change em. Looks lean huh.. But I got a wideband and its telling me 14s at idle and swings into solid 11s at wot, so humm..? Dont know your set up.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 03:15 AM
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just the basic i/h/e, but the guy that had the car before me set the afc not me so the settings could be wrong
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Old May 20, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KraZEtEggIE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">set it to all 0 and install some basic ngk plugs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

or go one step colder, you could run a bkr6en11 stock # 5724. Stay away fron bosch plugs, they are garbage.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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btw, with your safc, - takes fuel away, + adds
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Old May 20, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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ok thanks for all the replies guys, im gonna put the car on the bottle so im thinking maybe 2 ranges colder but get a CD box to keep the plugs firing clean at low rpm's as well as higher ones
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Old May 20, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarkDragon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok thanks for all the replies guys, im gonna put the car on the bottle so im thinking maybe 2 ranges colder but get a CD box to keep the plugs firing clean at low rpm's as well as higher ones</TD></TR></TABLE>

NGK R5671A-8 will be your friend.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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I suggest getting a true wideband so you know whats going on while adjusting the AFC, its the only way to make real settings. And just go one step colder.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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ya im definatly looking into a wideband, im gonna be at a muffler shop this week anyway so ill go ahead and get them to tap the exhaust and weld a bung in but block it so i can install another sensor
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