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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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i have 2 vtec solenoids. both of them dont have the green thing. i was wondering what is the green thing? right now, this is the only thing missing for my mini me setup. help me out pls. thanks. oh, the vtec solenoids look different too! ill try to post some pix.

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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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That there is your vtec pressure sensor that your missing.. Depending on how your doing you mini-me says if you need it or not..

Meaning if your using a oem honda ecu then you will need it.. If your using a vafc or rpm switch to turn it on then you dont need it.. Either way you will have to plug the hole there with something, either the pressure sensor or a cap..
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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thanks man. really answered my question. which one should i use on the pic, right or leff? so ill have to put a screw or something in there then just wire up the vtec to my rpm switch (msd 8950)? am i right? thanks again.
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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oh yeah, its a z6 head and a sohc zc block.
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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Im not really sure what the difference is.. If you do use the one on the left just get a screw cap from home depot if you can find a size to fit it..
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Also yes, that all you have to do is send 12 volts to the noid for it to engauge.. Good luck..
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bamer02 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey guys,

i have 2 vtec solenoids. both of them dont have the green thing. i was wondering what is the green thing? right now, this is the only thing missing for my mini me setup. help me out pls. thanks. oh, the vtec solenoids look different too! ill try to post some pix.
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that VT solenoid on the right is trippin me out
Motors that don't have a VTPS, normally JDM OBD2 vtec engines, usually have a filled spot where the VTPS would be....but that one doesn't.

That might even be a solenoid from an auto transmission, not quite a VT solenoid, but does the same functions as a VT solenoid.....I could be wrong though.

but besides that, you can still bypass the VTPS, by splicing the power wire of the VTPS into the single wire for the VT solenoid, then take the ground wire of the VTPS and ground to the body of the VT solenoid somewhere....and presto...VTEC will work without throwing a code for the VTPS.
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Katman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

that VT solenoid on the right is trippin me out
Motors that don't have a VTPS, normally JDM OBD2 vtec engines, usually have a filled spot where the VTPS would be....but that one doesn't.

That might even be a solenoid from an auto transmission, not quite a VT solenoid, but does the same functions as a VT solenoid.....I could be wrong though.

but besides that, you can still bypass the VTPS, by splicing the power wire of the VTPS into the single wire for the VT solenoid, then take the ground wire of the VTPS and ground to the body of the VT solenoid somewhere....and presto...VTEC will work without throwing a code for the VTPS. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nice.. Didnt know you could bypass it like that..
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 02:33 PM
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hey katman, arent you from jdmhondaparts? i was emailing you about my mini me months ago. inquiring about the jumpers.


anyways, im not really sure about this--&gt;but besides that, you can still bypass the VTPS, by splicing the power wire of the VTPS into the single wire for the VT solenoid, then take the ground wire of the VTPS and ground to the body of the VT solenoid somewhere....and presto...VTEC will work without throwing a code for the VTPS.

i dont have the vtec pressure switch (the green thing). and i only see one wire. so which wire is which? and what really is the vt solenoid? is it the cylinder on the top or is it the whole thing?

oh yeah, the vt solenoid on the right has the hole for the VTPS on the right side of it (not seen on the pic). ill try to get some more detailed pix.
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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how many wires are there suppose to be anyways? 3? 2 from the VTPS and one from the VT solenoid?

how much would you guys pay for a VTPS?
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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ok.. i think you have your self lost...I think* you have a sohc vtec solonoid and a dohc vtec solonoid. Your going to want to use the one that bolts to your head.. not matter what it looks like..... NOW, are you using a stock ecu or a vafc or something. If you are.. you dont need the green thing / VTPS*.

start with bolting the solonoid to the head.. then the one wire.. is going to run to what ever is controlling vtec....

The green thing / VTPS* will depend on what your using to turning vtec on with or what ecu you are using .

Did that help ?
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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im using an rpm switch...msd 8950 with pm6 ecu...damn man...that did help a lot....so what should i do about the holes? screw something to cover it up? so i dont need the vtps right if my setup is pm6 and msd 8950 rpm activated switch? thanks.

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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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Thats right.. Since your just using a rpm switch you dont need the plug.. Take the vtec noid down to home depot and find a plug to plug that hole..
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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cool. thanks. later fellas. wish me luck with my project.
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bamer02 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey katman, arent you from jdmhondaparts? i was emailing you about my mini me months ago. inquiring about the jumpers.

yup, that's me. Did I reply back to you? lol


anyways, im not really sure about this--&gt;but besides that, you can still bypass the VTPS, by splicing the power wire of the VTPS into the single wire for the VT solenoid, then take the ground wire of the VTPS and ground to the body of the VT solenoid somewhere....and presto...VTEC will work without throwing a code for the VTPS.

i dont have the vtec pressure switch (the green thing). and i only see one wire. so which wire is which? and what really is the vt solenoid? is it the cylinder on the top or is it the whole thing?

the VTEC solenoid (assembly) is what you posted pictures of. The VT solenoid itself is the big round cylinder shaped thingamabob, with a single wire/plug coming out of it. If your VT solenoid had a VTPS (green) plug coming out of it, that would be the VTPS and if you looked inside of it you'd see 2 pins in it which the VTPS female plug (engine wire harness side) makes contact with.

oh yeah, the vt solenoid on the right has the hole for the VTPS on the right side of it (not seen on the pic). ill try to get some more detailed pix.

ah ok..that makes sense then. That means that other VT solenoid is a SOHC VTEC VT solenoid.

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im using an rpm switch...msd 8950 with pm6 ecu...damn man...that did help a lot....so what should i do about the holes? screw something to cover it up? so i dont need the vtps right if my setup is pm6 and msd 8950 rpm activated switch? thanks.

yer using a PM6 ecu eh? that blows. You should be using a VTEC ecu which has the proper programming (dual fuel & timing maps), whereas your PM6 ecu has single fuel & timing maps. But, for the time being, you dont have to wire in the VTPS because the PM6 ecu doesn't even look for a VTPS or any VTEC components for that matter..

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Old May 2, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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yes...you did answer all my questions...even this one...thanks guys...

katman...any chance you can chip my ecu? thanks.
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Old May 2, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bamer02 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes...you did answer all my questions...even this one...thanks guys...

katman...any chance you can chip my ecu? thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sure..hit me up (IM me)
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