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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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Im doing a b20vtec with a b20 blcok and of a vtec head which mine came of a b16a. Now the question is can this be done without taking out the hwole motor including the blcok. Because dont you have to drill on the back part of the block for the oil feed lines. By the way yes, I have the golden eacgle complete set with the headgasket. So did anybody ever try doing this without taking out the block or it jsut cant be done or its just goin be be hard life and might as well take it out. let me know whoever went through this swap thanks.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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if you have our vtec kit you don't need to drill on your block at all so you can install the head with out pulling the motor
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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if you have our vtec kit you don't need to drill on your block at all so you can install the head with out pulling the motor
Really thanks! hahah nice. So how do you tap the oil feed line from the adaptor to the head?
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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Really thanks! hahah nice. So how do you tap the oil feed line from the adaptor to the head?
just read the instructions that came with your kit its all in there
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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Reading Instructions > OP
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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i hope your gonna beef up the bottom end at least rod bolts or say by by to the crank
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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i hope your gonna beef up the bottom end at least rod bolts or say by by to the crank
why you say that i had mine for 2 years never changed rod bolts same with a lot of my friends back in the day
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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there are exceptions to any rule but for piece of mind dont be stupid
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 03:25 AM
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Yeah I was but then im just doing it little by little for now I was also planning to upgrade the pistons to a higher compression. Also, Im not an every weekend race guy. I head to the track maybe every 2 months only Im not one of them weekend warriors.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:18 AM
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there are exceptions to any rule but for piece of mind don't be stupid
lol being stupid has nothing to do with it you said (((i hope your gonna beef up the bottom end at least rod bolts or say by by to the crank ))) and sorry but that is misinformation i know lots of guys that never upgrade them with no problems. if he can afford to upgrade them and put new bearings with proper clearances good but if he cant afford to put new bearings with those new rod bolts then he is better off not changing them and messing up his bearing clearances because you cant just expect to change rod bolts and torque specks with out checking bearing clearances if you do that is just stupid
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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lol being stupid has nothing to do with it you said (((i hope your gonna beef up the bottom end at least rod bolts or say by by to the crank ))) and sorry but that is misinformation i know lots of guys that never upgrade them with no problems. if he can afford to upgrade them and put new bearings with proper clearances good but if he cant afford to put new bearings with those new rod bolts then he is better off not changing them and messing up his bearing clearances because you cant just expect to change rod bolts and torque specks with out checking bearing clearances if you do that is just stupid
i know lots guys that have your sleeves and they have sunk or cracked but that dose nto mean your sleeves are bad or your machine shop sucks "or does it" , and by recommending he change the rod bolts is not misinformation
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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i know lots guys that have your sleeves and they have sunk or cracked but that dose nto mean your sleeves are bad or your machine shop sucks "or does it" , and by recommending he change the rod bolts is not misinformation
we have never had a cracked sleeve ever and yes at one time when we first started sleeving we had some leaking problems what sleeving shop didnt but guess what we figured it out and have not had a problem in well over 6 years. i didn't say suggesting he Chang the rod bolts is misinformation i said you saying (( i hope your gonna beef up the bottom end at least rod bolts or say by by to the crank)) was misinformation because like i said if he does not replace them it don't mean bye bye crank so that is misinformation. if your going to try and dis someone get your facts strait before posting unless you like it when we school you and make you look more like a noob so stop wasting our time with your pointless post and go learn something other then what you read on here

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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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OKay thanks guys im definitly reading this hahah. Well since this thread is long already does anyboyd know if I can use an OBD2 dizzy on an OBD! SIR2 head which is obd1, be at that becasue my car is a 98 civic which is the obd2 harness. SO can i use this obd2 dizzy on the head so I dont have to get the conversion harness for the dizzy.
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we have never had a cracked sleeve ever and yes at one time when we first started sleeving we had some leaking problems what sleeving shop didnt but guess what we figured it out and have not had a problem in well over 6 years. i didn't say suggesting he Chang the rod bolts is misinformation i said you saying (( i hope your gonna beef up the bottom end at least rod bolts or say by by to the crank)) was misinformation because like i said if he does not replace them it don't mean bye bye crank so that is misinformation. if your going to try and dis someone get your facts strait before posting unless you like it when we school you and make you look more like a noob so stop wasting our time with your pointless post and go learn something other then what you read on here
learn how to spell and use proper grammer **** face " i didn't say suggesting he Chang" wtf is that and next time im at golden eagle in san dimas i will be sure to ask for you
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 11:56 PM
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So.... Does anybody know now if I use the obd2 dizzy on a obd1 SIR II head will this just be fine?
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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next time im at golden eagle in san dimas i will be sure to ask for you
Holy Crap, Batman!
E - Thugging @ it's finest.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 07:28 AM
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Holy Crap, Batman!
E - Thugging @ it's finest.
lol yeah big time e thugging oh well i made my point. whats funny is he said i should learn how to spell he should take his own advice but all e thugs resort to that when they get schooled

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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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So.... Does anybody know now if I use the obd2 dizzy on a obd1 SIR II head will this just be fine?
is the ecu your using obd1 or obd2?
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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lol yeah big time e thugging oh well i made my point. whats funny is he said i should learn how to spell he should take his own advice but all e thugs resort to that when they get schooled
are you that dumb i have been to your shop many times you have done alot of work for my friend bisi and sheepy
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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are you that dumb i have been to your shop many times you have done alot of work for my friend bisi and sheepy
what does that mean? ether way all i was saying is that if he don't upgrade his rod bolts it does not mean bye bye crank like you said i didn't put you down or anything just said that was untrue your the one ethugging taking it personnel and ask bisi how good our sleeves work he knows first hand so your other statement was pointless and rude and also untrue
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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name dropping... FTL


OP what ecu are you running?
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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Well. . . . I made up my mind on a chipped p28 ecu witha b20vtec basemap from phearable will this be okay.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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the ecu is fine but cant run obd2 dizzy with that ecu needs to be obd1 dizzy
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 06:30 AM
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the ecu is fine but cant run obd2 dizzy with that ecu needs to be obd1 dizzy
Cancel. . . Im trying to purchase an obd1 ecu here at the forum. So back to the conversion kit question, so the block doesnt have to be out huh. Ill just wait for the kit to come in and see what else question i gotta ask. Just right now im confused as to how will we tap the lines to the block from the oil sandwich.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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Just right now im confused as to how will we tap the lines to the block from the oil sandwich.
What do you mean?
All you have to do is tap the head with the tap and plug GE provides in their kit. After that it's pretty much cake. Here I'll post a link to their actual instructions.
http://www.goldeneaglemfg.com/includ...sionSystem.pdf
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