dood lmao... if you want to make .001% or 10% more power with cooler fuel go ahead... i'm just saying chances are your car needs other things than just a composite fuel rail. but what do i know... spend the money how you want.


the point of my post was to indicate:

1) customer being upset at performance company big or small is NOTHING new

2) customer being upset at SKUNK2 is nothing new

3) learn from your dealings and who you deal with, do more research... if you did and asked others who ran that fuel rail on YOUR type of manifold/injector you would of discovered some figment issues.

4) if you can't refund or the resolution you want from skunk2, just simply pledge yourself never to buy their product... end of story... instead this thread makes you look like a crybaby and novice like you've never been wronged before.


GOOD LUCK... seriously... move on with life... sell it if you don't like it ... live and learn...

 

Actually I agree with you. However I did do a lot of research, but I was convinced skunk was being honest. I didn't look for negative reviews. I should have. I did search this forum and Club Intega and stumbled thru a lot of talk and no details, a lot of people talking **** to each other, and off topic, but absolutely no installation details. Like I said though, I did not check for bad reviews about Skunk2.

Plus, I have heard the discussion about warmer/leaner fuel conditions leading to better economy.....all the way back to the early '70s, and even tried it on one of my Karman Ghias, admittedly with no results I could tell.

I have decided to send it back, from weighing everything here, and considering greatly the lies I was told by Skunk2, that it was a direct fit for my car.

Thanks for the input, guys.

I want to add that most of my mod efforts in my distant past were on air-cool VWs and British Motorcycles. The products back then were outstanding (I tripled the hp in one of my Karman Ghias and everything fit perfectly) and so I'm quite surprised that a company like this....seems a bit half-*** compared to the work I did back then. Yes, it was quite a while back....


.

 

Maybe this will help the op argument..... Cooler fuel is in fact denser. Fuel coolers do help make more horse power when a tune or timing compensates for a colder mixture. As for helping mpg... No. Cooler fuel without tune or timing advance will give you worse gas mileage.

iat and fuel temp don't correlate..... Bet your egt and lambada will change running same tune with 60f gas vs 100f gas. (My speculation on the subject anyway)

 

Yes, I tend to agree with you, but....



...what does this mean?

 

lower temperature means denser fuel. density=mass/volume, for density to go up it means the more fuel by weight or less volume, since your fuel pump/lines/rail/regulator are fixed/limited volume of flow it means more mass, which means more fuel consumption, not less. the way around it is most likely a stand alone ecu that can handle a fuel temperature input variable and adjust injector pulsewidth based on that number.

 

Yes, this I understand. Thanks!

Your talking about a programmable ECU, interface and software.....not to mention the know how. $3000 maybe? I'm guessing. At lest the oside injectors are working nicely. Smooth.


.

 

megasquirt costs far less than that. and at least what i am suggesting is actually feasible, realistic, and possible.

 

I think it might be, I'll look at there stuff.

I expect that means upgrading to obd-1?

 

Turboedit is obd0 capable with later model pm6 and ps9 ecus i believe but i am not sure about what additional sensor inputs it is capable of.
There are some other plug and play type solutions that MAY work with obd1 such as a hondata s300 (i am using one of those on my 1989 crx si due to a rebuild to 12:1 compression), or other solutions like Neptune.

 

lol @ butthurt OP

Dont believe everything you read young lad