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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 06:26 PM
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 10:15 PM
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b16b will not pass bar, engine was never offered in any vehicle in the us market but u can put the pistons in a b16a and maybe pass bar with a new cat to hide the increased compression maybe
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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 03:01 PM
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i just bought an 89 civic hatch with b18c1 and its bard. my question is if i get pulled over by a police officer and he is skeptical of my bard sticker and my swap can he still give me a ref ticket to get inspected?
i ask in case i wanna run a test pipe or bore out my motor and do head work.
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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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u can get a ref ticket if u have non carb exempt parts on the engine
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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmjunkieXL
b16b will not pass bar, engine was never offered in any vehicle in the us market but u can put the pistons in a b16a and maybe pass bar with a new cat to hide the increased compression maybe
the h22a wasn't offered in any USDM market either but I still got mine bar'ed so the answer is still yes it can be bar'ed.

Like I said before, all that matters is if it's "functionally the same". You just need to swap over USDM intake and exhaust components to the block.
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 12:07 AM
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H22a1 was offerd in the 93-96 prelude and h22a4 in 97-01 so yea u can bar an h22a
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 12:18 AM
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quick fix. move out of Cali.
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 01:27 AM
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H22a1 was offerd in the 93-96 prelude and h22a4 in 97-01 so yea u can bar an h22a
exactly, which means you can bar a b16b
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 02:43 AM
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h22a1 and h22a4 were offerd in the us market. what car was offerd in the us market with a B16B please tell me??
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmjunkieXL
h22a1 and h22a4 were offerd in the us market. what car was offerd in the us market with a B16B please tell me??
I'll tell you as soon as you tell me which car in the US offered the h22a ?
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 03:42 PM
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already said 93-96 97-01 preludes both had h22a now u tell me?
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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none of those USDM cars ever came with an h22a motor so try again
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by holmesnmanny
none of those USDM cars ever came with an h22a motor so try again
The H22a motor is technically the same as its US counter parts, the A4 and A1. However there is no US equivalent to the B16B. The B16A is completely different. The Refs are pretty much on top of this and I doubt a B16B can get BAR'ed....
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by holmesnmanny
B16b is "functionally the same" as B16a so you would need to use usdm intake side and BAR it as a B16a with usdm civic si ecu california emissions.
Its not the same at all. Different head,valve train,cams,block, rods and pistons....
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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My point! Thank you dcfiver
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:37 PM
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It doesn't have to be the same exact motor. Just functionally the same, which it clearly is.

If it had to be the same exact motor it would say so explicitly.'

This isn't rocket science, guys.
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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I've read through most of this thread and didn't see or maybe don't understand but here it goes anyway:

I currently live in Az, where they don't check anything. As long as it passes the sniff test (obd1) or the scan test (obd2). My gf and I are planning to move to California within the next year, I have a 1996 Integra Db with a 00' CTR swap, is there anyway I can get the car registered/bar'd in California? Or should I leave it registered in Az and drive back every 2 years to re-register it?

EDIT* I only got through 2 pages, didn't see the 3rd. And yes a b16b is nothing like the b16a. If anything, it's more of a b18c5 then a b16a
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 10:08 PM
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I would drive it back every 2 years the db had a 1.8 u have to have a 1.8 or bigger, one of the rules of bar

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Old Oct 30, 2013 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by holmesnmanny
It doesn't have to be the same exact motor. Just functionally the same, which it clearly is.

If it had to be the same exact motor it would say so explicitly.'

This isn't rocket science, guys.
Lol. All engines are "functionally" the same, but BAR require more than similar functionality. The point is moot until someone tries to get one BAR'ed and lets us know how it went...
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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 01:44 PM
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Any fresh info on this?
JDM H22A with ALL USDM parts and USDM Ecu?
LEGAL! Not looking to slide one last them to have an issue at a later date.
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 05:42 AM
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yes theres a recent thread ... he got it bar'ed .. just do a search
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 12:10 AM
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Yep, he ran a jdm b16 and equipped it with usdm b16 civic si emissions equipment, and got it bar'd as such.
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 10:15 PM
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I know this thread is ancient, but can I still get my jdm b18c gsr bard with Usdm emission equipment etc? Last time I checked you still can but people are telling me otherwise. Thanks.
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ej1b18c1
I know this thread is ancient, but can I still get my jdm b18c gsr bard with Usdm emission equipment etc? Last time I checked you still can but people are telling me otherwise. Thanks.
yes you can just need usdm stock emission components and ecu
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 07:17 PM
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Solution? Move out of California 👍
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