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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 03:55 PM
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I just changed the clutch in my 98 gsr and after getting everything back together I realized that the axles spin while the transmission is in gear.

I have done cv axles before so I know how to seat the passenger axle, does the intermediate shaft seat of just slide in? I tried to seat it and it seemed as if it couldn't move any further.

Would a lack of MTF allow the axles to spin while in gear? The trans has been empty for about a week and right before I checked to see if the axles spun in gear I filled it up with about 2 1/2 qts of honda MTF.

Is it possible for the input shaft to miss the crank? I torqued the bell housing and nothing seemed to be out of place.

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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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I'm not sure what your problem is. Don't you want the axles to be spinning while the tranny is in gear? I'd be more worried if they weren't.

As for the halfshaft, I've always just jammed it into place until its flange is more or less flush with the tranny, and its mounting holes line up with the holes in the block.

It's not really possible for the input shaft to miss the crank since it doesn't interface directly with the crank. It is possible to miss the clutch disc and pilot bearing, but chances are you wouldn't have been able to get the bolts tightened down if you had missed either one.

Can you clarify what you mean by "the axles spin while the transmission is in gear"?
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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The input shaft can not miss. If the splines didn't go into the clutch disc you would not be able to tighten all the bolts.

You did put the clutch disc in, right?
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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When the transmission is in gear you cannot spin the wheels without the engine turning over, which is why you can leave the trans in gear after you park to keep the car from rolling.

did I put in the clutch disc?... you know what now that I think about it, the clutch disc, pressure plate and flywheel that I spent $400 are just sitting in my closet, is that why Im having my problem?

sorry for the sarcasm.
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 05:09 PM
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So I'm guessing the car goes nowhere when you throttle up in gear? It sounds like either the axles aren't fully seated, or you somehow managed to get the tranny on while missing the clutch disc. I would start with checking the axles first, since that's easier than dropping the entire tranny again, and go from there.
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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ya thats what I was going to do, but I tore a small hole in the cv boot while trying to seat it. the hole is not even a half inch long, is it possible to maybe throw some silicone one there to seal it, or should I just replace the boot?
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Old Jun 4, 2008 | 05:46 PM
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I doubt the silicone would stay on there for long, since the grease in that area will probably keep it from adhering well, plus it'll be subjected to a lot of flexing. The boots themselves are usually pretty cheap, but actually disassembling them, repacking the grease, and installing the new sealing clamps(I don't know what they're really called, but they look like a thin metal band with a clasp thing holding the ends together - they seal the ends of the c/v boot) can be a pretty involved process. I've only ever successfully tightened and crimped those sealing clamps once. The other time I changed a boot I ended up messing them up had to resort to using worm screw hose clamps.
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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I just thought of something, the only way the tires can spin is if it is in netrual. If it is not in netural the input shaft has to spin, am I correct?

so if it in gear and both tires are spinning then for some reason the clutch is not engauging.

is the part of the clutch that has the arrow pointing to it is supposed to be facing the pressure plate/ transmission?


Modified by dynimitejack at 6:50 AM 6/7/2008
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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did you put the throwout bearing and arm back in correctly?
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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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The arm can only go one way, the bearing went with the small tabs facing the transmission, with the arm going through the tab and the thicker part. The bearing was facing the pressure plate.
If that makes sense... Thats the way I put it back together.
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Old Jun 7, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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I just checked the service manual and I installed the clutch and throwout bearing correctly.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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I just checked the service manual and I installed the clutch and throwout bearing correctly.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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I assume you're checking the spinning of the axles with the front wheels off the ground. If this is the case, it's normal for the axles/wheels to spin with it in gear, front wheels will turn in opposite directions.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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Really? I figured that even if the car was off the ground and the car was in gear that the engine would stop the wheels from spinning, being that the transmission won't move from the compression of the engine.

When the car is on the ground and is in gear it won't move easily, I thought that if the front wheels were in the air the same principal would apply.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stumpyf4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I assume you're checking the spinning of the axles with the front wheels off the ground. If this is the case, it's normal for the axles/wheels to spin with it in gear, front wheels will turn in opposite directions.</TD></TR></TABLE>

he is correct!!!!!
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 05:16 PM
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Have you driven the car yet?

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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Haha ya it drives great you were right.
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Old Jun 8, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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wow reading this was great, a solid 3 minutes of entertainment then BAM pure dissapointment
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