Ok.. So I'm partially insane at this point and here's why.

I had been driving my car around for a few thousand miles with a good excess of positive toe out. Well, this toe out finally balded my tires so I decided to get new tires and an alignment all at once.

Well, after I got the tires mounted/balanced and the car aligned I noticed a bad wobble at high speeds (60mph and up). After having my wheels rebalanced 4 times and switching them front to back with the same results I know I don't have 4 bent rims. To ensure that it wasn't the tires/rims I slapped on my neighbors tires/rims (he has the same exact tires) and the same problem persisted but my tires/rims on his car gave him no wobble.

OK. So, let's talk about all the things I've replaced.

Steering rack
Inner and out tie rods (new)
Lower ball joints (new)
Upper control arms and ball joints (new)
Sway bar end links (new)
Wheel bearings (new)
Both Axles (remans)
Intermediate shaft (used)

After all of this the problem has only been "reduced" but still persists at 70mph and worsen as I go faster.

I DIDN'T replace the fron't hubs... JUST the bearings. Could a hub cause this?

 

I have the SAME ******* problem. I have replaced everything... new axles, ball joints, wheel bearings, tie rods, upper control arms and bushings... i still get a shake at 60+mph. Its very very ******* annoying. =\

 

I get this on both my CRX (CRVTEC swap) and my accord beater (stock '90 EX). The only thing both cars have in common is a replacement set of reman axles. I always figured it was the poor reman quality parts on the car that caused my problems. Maybe not?

 

Have you ever inspected the tires?

 

jp...seriously though. Have you ever checked the motor mounts or the transmission? I had a problem similar to this and it turned out to be the engine that was shaking the front end. I also had my crankshaft balanced as well.

 

bad reman axles will do it every time

 

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Well, after I got the tires mounted/balanced and the car aligned I noticed a bad wobble at high speeds (60mph and up). </TD></TR></TABLE>
Does it do it all the time or only when accelerating?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiovnidca &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does it do it all the time or only when accelerating?</TD></TR></TABLE>

All the time.


I have the hasport mounts and will be inspecting them tomorrow but the last time I looked at them they looked to be all tight and right.

It starts at about 55mph and just worsens all the way up to 100mph. I have a track day coming up and I want have a "trustworthy" car while I'm on the track.

Nobody has any opinions on the hubs?


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By transmission... how do you mean? What in the tranny would cause steering wheel wobble?

 

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If I put the car up on jack stands and load the suspension and run the car up to 60+mph in the air would that tell me if a remaned axle is bad?

 

Aftermarket wheels? Hubcentric ring?

 

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Yes, Yes

And...It's not the wheels.

 

have you checked your brakes? torn up rotors can cause a steering wheel wobble even when not applying them.

also, the wheel bearings... oem? and did you install them or a have a shop press them in?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SockEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">have you checked your brakes? torn up rotors can cause a steering wheel wobble even when not applying them.

also, the wheel bearings... oem? and did you install them or a have a shop press them in?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well.. if the rotors are warped they would cause shaking under braking in which these are not. However, I will be installing new rotors and pads in the next 2 days.

As for the bearings they are OEM but I pressed them in. The problem was the same with the new bearings.

 

did you press them in with the black seal facing the hub? believe it not if put in the other way, even though it looks the same, can cause weird stuff to happen ie. noises and vibrations.

 

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They were pressed in accurately.

 

sorry I couldn't help... only other thing I can think of is, are you confident the alignment was done correctly? with pretty much everything new, that's not much else it could be....

good luck.

 

Im thinking the hub thing as well... it is possible it is slightly bent, therefore throwing off the balance. Reman axles were my prtoblem before. I just installed two new ones from NAPA which are much better than the Autozone axles I had before. Im about to buy new OEM wheel bearings, and new hubs and have Honda press them in. That way I can eliminate that.

 

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Yes, Yes

And...It's not the wheels.
I DIDN'T replace the fron't hubs... JUST the bearings. Could a hub cause this?

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Just making sure. I have seen a similiar vehicle with the same problem. Wound up the client had aftermarket wheels and fogot to install the hubcentric ring.

Yes a slightly bent hub could cause this issue as well. You have eliminated all but the one thing thatmounts the wheels to the car.

I know you have replaced the axles already but id almost go toward trying a known good set. Good luck

 

BTW....you local to Los Angeles? Id love to take a crack at this.

 

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Not in cali.

Tomorrow I will be checking the motor mounts and jacking it up and running to 60mph with the wheels off and the suspension loading to see if anything is "out-of-round".

If Everything checks out OK then I will be replacing the hubs with much chagrin.


::looking for credit card::

BTW: I have a track day a week from today (28th) in which I will be instructing my father. Yup... that's right I will be instructing my father. I'm very excited and so is he since he knows his sons CRX is faster than his ITR.

If I can get the problem fixed I will be attending and will share my photos!!

 

Yea, I have hubcentric rings on mine too. If im below 120kmph, everything is fine. No shake, smooth as butter as much as it can be, but above its really ******* annoying. I don't even want to drive on the highway because of it.

Anyone think this could be caused by a dragging caliper? It only happens on the right side of the car as well it seems. (Pass side)

 

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If Everything checks out OK then I will be replacing the hubs with much chagrin.


::looking for credit card::

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You can check the hubs for runout instead of just throwing more parts at it.

 

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You can check the hubs for runout instead of just throwing more parts at it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

How so exactly? I know they make gauges to check for play in the wheel bearings but I have never heard of this for the hub itself.

I checked the price on the hub itself, and they are about $120 each from the dealer.

 

Ah, I never considered hub rings as the possible culprit, very interesting info. I have a set of rota slipstreams on my EF (as does every other person and their mother). I wonder if maybe I just need a new set of rings to get rid of the wobble in the steering at higher speeds?

My only other question would be why this also happens on my completely stock accord, which also has stock wheels, none of which are bent or damaged.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chiovnidca &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can check the hubs for runout instead of just throwing more parts at it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is one thing I planned on checking. I'm planning on buying a dial guage today.