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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:40 AM
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hi guys im planning on buyying the spoon stroker kit for the b16b.. take note its for the b16b.. but my engine is a b16a.. is there a way that i can adapt the kit to my engine? do i need to change the rods? help guys!!!
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:54 AM
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Just go throught Eagle or Crower......don't bother with the overrated Spoon stuff.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 10:06 AM
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hi guys im planning on buyying the spoon stroker kit for the b16b.. take note its for the b16b.. but my engine is a b16a.. is there a way that i can adapt the kit to my engine? do i need to change the rods? help guys!!!
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 10:43 AM
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guys the spoon kit only costs 1150$ i thinkthe crower kit cost way more than this...
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 10:44 AM
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compare what is included in each kit.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 10:47 AM
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b16b stroker kit(i assume its a 1.8 kit) is just a b18c crank and rods.
not very expensive stuff
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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hmmm i was thinking of getting a spoon kit.. but the price diff is like around 1300$ hmm.. wat rods will i need and what size of pistons will i need to stroke up my b16a block? yeah i know i need a b18c1 or 5 crank right? how about the piston thing? and rods? help me out dudes..
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 12:10 PM
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the only thing you can do to stroke is swap the b17 crank and rods. Other companies make stroker kits for the b16a but the spoon one is just factory ITR stuff and is only for the b16b...The b16b is not the same block as a b16a. B16b is destroked b18c.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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i know dude.. i know its not the same nlcok the ctr block is taller.. anyways.. wat kind pistons do i need? hmmm if i just buy a b18 crank and put n b16a rods.. and pistons.. well wat kind of pistons?! help me out i heard they use a single ring pistons for this kinda setup..
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 12:20 PM
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ok...I was just letting you know. I wasn't for sure if you knew that.

I'm almost positive there is NO rod you can use with a b18c crank in a B16A block.
If you want to stroke it using OEM parts, go with b17 crank and rods with either CTR piston or b16 pistons.

Aftermarket stroker kits are just that....not OEM and I do believe they use a single ring piston.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 12:26 PM
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COOL! are u sure about this? guys i need more inputs!!!
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 01:26 PM
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I am pretty sure Waffles is correct.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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Waffleface is correct. Either get a b18c block or use the b17 crank and rods. The b16a block is 7mm shorter than the b18c/b16b blocks.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 03:04 PM
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people still dont understant..that b16b is a destroked b18c block..its not a b16 cast. they start with a b18c cast when they make the b16b.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:08 PM
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people still dont understant..that b16b is a destroked b18c block..its not a b16 cast. they start with a b18c cast when they make the b16b.
people dont understand alot of things on this board

say it once and dont repeat it again.....***** em'
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:42 PM
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people still dont understant..that b16b is a destroked b18c block..its not a b16 cast. they start with a b18c cast when they make the b16b.
Whats your point? the guy asking the question has a b16A block.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:51 PM
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people still dont understant..that b16b is a destroked b18c block..its not a b16 cast. they start with a b18c cast when they make the b16b.


Whats your point? the guy asking the question has a b16A block.
Point being you cant shove b18c internals into a b16a without some sort of modification.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:55 PM
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Whats your point? the guy asking the question has a b16A block.
Point being you cant shove b18c internals into a b16a without some sort of modification.
and? that part has been covered already
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:57 PM
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hi guys im planning on buyying the spoon stroker kit for the b16b.. take note its for the b16b.. but my engine is a b16a.. is there a way that i can adapt the kit to my engine? do i need to change the rods? help guys!!!
I really highly doubt that the stroker kit will work in your B16A. Remember a B16B has a higher block than a B16A and like jared said, Its a de-stroked B18C motor. The length of the rods, the stroke of the crank, and piston size is all different. You can mod it to fit, but with that amount of money you spend fabricating it to fit, You might as well just get a 1.8L

edit: even if you get everything to fit into a B16A motor, you might need to apply a deck plate to compensate for the B16B stroke in a B16A which I have seen to be totally un-reliable. ( LS rods in a B16 block deck plated )


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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 10:06 PM
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hmm hi again peeps .. i want a sleeper engine if u guys know wat i mean.. hmm i was looking or a b18c crank.. and not use the b16b rods.. i will use the pr3 rods wat pistons would u recommend on this? pls guys i need a straight answers none of those bullshit block stuffs or those spec **** i need straight answers tanx!
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 06:50 AM
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Listen bro....you cant use b18c crank and b16 rods...its not gonna happen. The only way this would be possible is to weld on a deck plate. If you want to stroke the b16 go with the b17 internals. If you want more displacement consider resleeving the block to say 85-86mm. This keeps your handy-dandy short stroke and great rod/stroke ratio and adds displacement...

It's almost 10 in the mornign so my math skills are a little off, someone help me here. I believe a resleeved b16 to 85mm is between 1.8-1.9liters. There's your displacement.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 07:02 AM
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hmm hi again peeps .. i want a sleeper engine if u guys know wat i mean.. hmm i was looking or a b18c crank.. and not use the b16b rods.. i will use the pr3 rods wat pistons would u recommend on this? pls guys i need a straight answers none of those bullshit block stuffs or those spec **** i need straight answers tanx!
B16B= B18c1/5 block it's the same thing!!. . .

If you DO have a B16B Block ... Then I would go to your local AcUrA dealer and order a crank shaft and a set of rods for a 94 and up GS-R..... And while your at it you might just want to pick up a Set of Type-R pistions....
and there you have it ..a 1.8L in the B16B block.... just like may others have posted in this thread.....
BTW that stroker kit should not cost more than 1000$ from the dealer..


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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 07:30 AM
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ONCE AGAIN EVERYONE...He has a B16A block, not a B16B. He wants to stroke a B16A...really hard to achieve 1.8liters of displacement with that block(in terms of stroking, not sleeving)
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 07:45 AM
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ONCE AGAIN EVERYONE...He has a B16A block, not a B16B. He wants to stroke a B16A...really hard to achieve 1.8liters of displacement with that block(in terms of stroking, not sleeving)

Ahh OK . .. . oops
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 07:52 AM
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So again...why doesn't he sleeve and bore it?
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