WHen you replace the distributor I assume you will need to reset or readjust the timing. Is there anyway to do this without the timing light? And which way retards and advances? thanks.

 

 

counterclockwise advances
you do need a timing light tough, unless you put the new dizzy in the same spot the other one was; but it'll still be a little off

 

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you do need a timing light tough, unless you put the new dizzy in the same spot the other one was; but it'll still be a little off</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks again for your input mmuller.. I'm gonna get my car workin sooner or later!
Ok so counterclockwise advances.. does this provide more or less fuel?

 

in your case it wouldn't really mean anything if you set it fully advanced or fully retarded, just leave it in the middle and when you fix the problem rent a timing light or take it somewhere to put the car on time.

Advancing or retarding the dist won't give you more or less fuel

 

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Advancing or retarding the dist won't give you more or less fuel</TD></TR></TABLE>


I guess I didn't ask correctly.. It is correct that advancing or retarding timing via the distributor could make you run leaner or richer correct? I could be wrong but this is what I've heard from others. I was wondering what you would do if you wanted to run a little more lean? Which way to turn. Thanks.

 

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I guess I didn't ask correctly.. It is correct that advancing or retarding timing via the distributor could make you run leaner or richer correct? I could be wrong but this is what I've heard from others. I was wondering what you would do if you wanted to run a little more lean? Which way to turn. Thanks. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well, i guess a little more advance would make you run a ''little'' leaner.
but you cant really do that since you need a timing gun, the range of movement is not that much; since you want to stay between specs

 

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well, i guess a little more advance would make you run a ''little'' leaner.

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wrong.

its the other way around. when u advance&gt;rich, retard&gt;lean.like everyone said u need to adjust the dizzy with the timing gun other your motor will not run properly

 

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wrong.

its the other way around. when u advance&gt;rich, retard&gt;lean.like everyone said u need to adjust the dizzy with the timing gun other your motor will not run properly</TD></TR></TABLE>

how's that?

 

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wrong.

its the other way around. when u advance&gt;rich, retard&gt;lean.like everyone said u need to adjust the dizzy with the timing gun other your motor will not run properly</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ya, I would like to know how adjusting the timing changes your injector duration.

 

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Ya, I would like to know how adjusting the timing changes your injector duration.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My thought exactly..


right now ignition timming can't be the culprit of your problem, maybe something wrong in your dist can be causing this, but not the degrees of advance or retard, just leave the dist in the middle of the adjustment.

 

OK, my timing is a slightly off!! i used a timing light and the three slits are to the left of the tdc line!!! bout a half of inch

so what do i need to do to adjust it?? thanks sorry for the thread jacking!! but i need help to

 

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so what do i need to do to adjust it?? thanks sorry for the thread jacking!! but i need help to</TD></TR></TABLE>

by "TDC line" do you mean the marks on the timing cover? loosen the distributor and turn it..

 

sorry for jacking the thread...

I bought a distributor from distributor King for my obd0 1st gen b16. what are the things that I should look for? When I tried to install it and the "prongs" from the dizzy snapped off after I tried to start it... you guys ever encounter situation like this?

 

prongs? gimmie more detail thanks.

 

the "prongs" I'm refering to is the circular plate with two things that sticks out and meets the cams...

 

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how's that?</TD></TR></TABLE>
from what i was taught in school when u advance the timing, it will increase the amount of spark going to the spark plugs when the ecu sees this it will start to dump more fuel hence your hydrcarbon will go up which many unburned fuel goes to waste losing performance.luckily thats why the o2 sensor is there when it sees this is happening the o2 will send signal back to the ecu saying motor is running to rich, thats when ecu changes the timing enough to run the engine to get u to the nearest repair shop.when the ecu compensates for any problem its called a "limp mode". now when its lean just pretend what i type so far was the other way around.its the same concept.the easiest way to describe advance is meaning more.correct?thus more or faster timing.retard means less thus giving u slow spark or timing.from what i recall this is what i was taught from a certified school.theres many more explanation if u want detail concept of theory how the engine works but it takes too much time.everything i said here is a shorter summmarize. if any one thinks i have a mislead information, feel free for a comment or post your statement but no flaming.after all we are all in constant learning.ever heard of u learn something new everyday. im sure no one here pioneered or invented honda so pls state positive comments otherwise keep your negative comments to yourself

 

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Ya, I would like to know how adjusting the timing changes your injector duration.</TD></TR></TABLE>
stock injector duration cannot be altered. you have to upgrade those and thats were rc engineering comes into play.

 

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from what i was taught in school when u advance the timing, it will increase the amount of spark going to the spark plugs when the ecu sees this it will start to dump more fuel hence your hydrcarbon will go up which many unburned fuel goes to waste losing performance.luckily thats why the o2 sensor is there when it sees this is happening the o2 will send signal back to the ecu saying motor is running to rich, thats when ecu changes the timing enough to run the engine to get u to the nearest repair shop.when the ecu compensates for any problem its called a "limp mode". now when its lean just pretend what i type so far was the other way around.its the same concept.the easiest way to describe advance is meaning more.correct?thus more or faster timing.retard means less thus giving u slow spark or timing.from what i recall this is what i was taught from a certified school.theres many more explanation if u want detail concept of theory how the engine works but it takes too much time.everything i said here is a shorter summmarize. if any one thinks i have a mislead information, feel free for a comment or post your statement but no flaming.after all we are all in constant learning.ever heard of u learn something new everyday. im sure no one here pioneered or invented honda so pls state positive comments otherwise keep your negative comments to yourself</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't agree with you man, advancing or retarding the distributor gives the same time of spark, the only thing that changes is when is the spark going to start.
Maybe what you just said it's true in cars without distributor.
think about it, what dictates the duration of the spark on a car with distributor is the rotor itself....
don't you think?

 

i just advanced mine to the firewall the entire way and kept turning it back until it stopped pinging. ran great after that.

 

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from what i was taught in school when u advance the timing, it will increase the amount of spark going to the spark plugs when the ecu sees this it will start to dump more fuel hence your hydrcarbon will go up which many unburned fuel goes to waste losing performance.luckily thats why the o2 sensor is there when it sees this is happening the o2 will send signal back to the ecu saying motor is running to rich, thats when ecu changes the timing enough to run the engine to get u to the nearest repair shop.when the ecu compensates for any problem its called a "limp mode". now when its lean just pretend what i type so far was the other way around.its the same concept.the easiest way to describe advance is meaning more.correct?thus more or faster timing.retard means less thus giving u slow spark or timing.from what i recall this is what i was taught from a certified school.theres many more explanation if u want detail concept of theory how the engine works but it takes too much time.everything i said here is a shorter summmarize. if any one thinks i have a mislead information, feel free for a comment or post your statement but no flaming.after all we are all in constant learning.ever heard of u learn something new everyday. im sure no one here pioneered or invented honda so pls state positive comments otherwise keep your negative comments to yourself</TD></TR></TABLE>

If this is what they taught you in school, I would ask for my money back....