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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 11:25 AM
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Default RDX 410 Injectors and S300

So first I did do a search and not coming up with anything that can help. I'm waiting on my rdx 410 cc to come in. I'm running s300 and wanted to know about dead times on the injectors. Should they be adjusted? Where would I get this info to adjust them when I install. Thank you.
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 02:08 PM
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What was wrong with this resource?
http://www.hondata.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10383
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Old Jun 17, 2014 | 05:26 PM
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Here's how to tune the dead times. Start with a completely stock engine and a stock eqivilent calibration. Check the shart term fuel trim at various steady state load levels, and check your short term fuel trim is close to 0. If not, you have not got everything stock. Now swap in the injectors. What you need to do is to increase the injector dead time so that you still get a short term fuel trim of 0. You'll need to concentrate on injector durations of less than 2 ms, where the dead time makes the most difference. Ignore idle, as the AF will go all over the place from small changes in engine temperature. Only change the dead times for the 12V and 16V values - when running the battery voltage should be 14V. When you make changes, increase or decrease the 12V and 16V values by the same amount.

As a guide, typically you'll need to increase the 12V and 16V values by 100-300 (0.1 to 0.3 ms). Use 0.05 ms increments at first.
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 07:15 AM
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So let me get this straight, first I read that. So I need to find a stock car and put my s300 on there, which that post it flashpro by the way just to get dead times. Ok so anybody that is all ready using the rdx injectors with s300 please chime in.
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 07:33 AM
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Sorry. Got that straight from Hondata.
You need a completely stock engine in good running order to calculate the injector dead times.
Okay. Then you need nothing according to this.
last night i finally got around to putting RDX injectors into my car and was pleasantly surprised with how well my car ran after just changing the injector size in my calibration to 410cc. I figured that would get me fairly close but would require a decent amount of tuning to get the A/F's right. that was not the case. WOT was perfect and did not need a single change, while part throttle only needs a little bit of tweaking. my s.trims didn't go above 10% and were mostly between 2 and 5%. this could have been a fluke. i'm not sure how well this has worked for most of you guys, but it worked awesome for me. way to go hondata!
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 07:37 AM
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And then this;
Ah I did not read that, awesome. Thank you sir.
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 07:46 AM
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Here is another thread with exact numbers but I don't know if your setup is similar.
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=141162
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 08:07 AM
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Gsr block 81.50 bore
ls crank, eagle rods, nippon b16 pistons
B16a head with blox spring and retainers
rc 440 cc injectors, walbro 255
Blox type c cams
new oem valves and bronze guides
type r intake, 68 mm tb
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exhuast is 2.5 back
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this is my setup.
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I'll keep searching. But in the meantime, what kind of duty are you running on the old injectors that you want to use these?
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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Thank you, same here.
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Don't know if this helps.
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Sorry. No one seems to monkey around with these settings. Everywhere I've looked people leave them as is.
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 08:35 AM
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Sorry. No one seems to monkey around with these settings. Everywhere I've looked people leave them as is.
Yeah just finally got ahold of my tuner buddy he said I dont need to change the dead times, just the fuel trim stock 240 then 410 set fp at 43-45 psi to start. Thanks for your help bro.
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Default Re: RDX 410 Injectors and S300

Make sure you datalog after the change. It may not be enough to just set the injector correction to 410 cc. You might still need to fine-tune the trim.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 08:13 AM
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Make sure you datalog after the change. It may not be enough to just set the injector correction to 410 cc. You might still need to fine-tune the trim.
OK gotcha. Thanks for the info guys.
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