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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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Default poormans R <> ls/vtec

i made a post in the ef forum and nobody wanted to help me so i'm putting it in here.
i have a majority of the part for a ls/vtec and recently came across a cheap gsr block. so my question is do i

a)make a poormans R
b)stick with the ls/vtec
c)put the ls internals into the gsr block and save some money on the ls/vtec conversion ****?

some reasoning behind your answer would be nice too.... thanks in advance
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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Default Re: poormans R <> ls/vtec (limpy)

I would build the gsr block. B18C is the ideal block to me, it has an even balance between torque and high revs, areas where the LS/B16 have only one. LS/VTEC is better than the GSR when comparing power, but the C1 was made to last long and the ls/vtec only lasts as long as the gsr if the redline is dropped and if assembled correctly; don't follow my lead, since it's your motor and your car, do whatever you want, this is just my opinion.
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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(c)
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 02:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hapexamendios &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(c) </TD></TR></TABLE>
that is what i was leaning towards... anymore opinions?
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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all 3 are good.
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 01:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Will_ChinLee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all 3 are good. </TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks for being so discriptive
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 03:05 AM
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aright guys im new here what is a poormans r?
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 06:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dis1civicsiguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">aright guys im new here what is a poormans r?</TD></TR></TABLE>

gsr block with a b16 head.

i would use the gsr block and do the poormans. the rs ratio is better, it has better oiling properties and it has a block girdle, all of which help support higher revving.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">gsr block with a b16 head.

i would use the gsr block and do the poormans. the rs ratio is better, it has better oiling properties and it has a block girdle, all of which help support higher revving.</TD></TR></TABLE> doesnt the b16 head get R internals to qualify as a poormans R?
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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i vote C
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hapexamendios &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> doesnt the b16 head get R internals to qualify as a poormans R? </TD></TR></TABLE>

that im not sure, because there are people running gsr blocks with forged internals and i consider that a poormans. static compression of a stock b16 head on a stock gsr block is 9.8:1
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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what if you put a b17 head onto a gsr block.. isnt the b17 head the same as a b16 head ??
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 01:40 PM
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i agree with c and also to add itr cams on the b16 jus cus i personally like the itr cam profile but thats my two cent. Also good luck with ur built up mang.
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