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Old May 2, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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I recenetly bought the tuner package#1 from xenocron.com Installed the socket chip everything like i was suppose to. Now i came across the dellima of burning the chip, I got the moates Ostrich emulator, I cant really figure out exactly how to use it, i can only find out how to use moates burn1. Anyone use the emulator and have msn that could tell me how they did it? or any help at all, because i cant find useful info. thanks
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Old May 2, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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What are you having problems with? Configuring the ports?
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Old May 2, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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just wan to share some problem here
i have the RTP configuration using moates usb DTL
its can't connect to ecu even port setting at device manager

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Old May 2, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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well atleast im not the only 1 having problems, so for the record, i unsocket the sst chip and inplace of that put the ribbon in its place run that to the moates ostrich, then to the usb ont he laptop, after that open up crome2.1 andhow do i connect to the usb it cant seem to connect? and the usb on the ecu that i put on witht he socket that is for datalogging correct?
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Old May 3, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97civicdxt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well atleast im not the only 1 having problems, so for the record, i unsocket the sst chip and inplace of that put the ribbon in its place run that to the moates ostrich, then to the usb ont he laptop, after that open up crome2.1 andhow do i connect to the usb it cant seem to connect? and the usb on the ecu that i put on witht he socket that is for datalogging correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you load the Ostrich drivers? And yes, you'll have 2 USB cables connected to your laptop now; one from the Ostrich, and one from the "socketed" part of the ECU (for datalogging).
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Old May 3, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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load the drivers from moates.net.
goto your control panel and find the ostrich and set to com3 or com4 set the baud rate to 19200
Goto crome settings and select RTP tab and select same com port and baud rate 19200
Click on test connection if it connects open a P30 rom. Goto plugins add RTP+DL and disable checksum.
Then on right top you'll find a ROM picture click on it and it should create a new column with get, put, RTP etc...
When you get it going select put and if you want to make any changes on the fly click on the real time button.
Should be good to go


Above post if your using the RTP board using the dallas chip it doesn't work at this time!!! John said it will work with the next release.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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thanks, ill try it 2morro and leave feedback on if it worked, i just figured out my obd2-1 conversion didnt convert my wiring on the ecu to a 2 wire so i fixed that today and it ides fast when its cold, so i assume its fixed, dont want to run it to long cuz it sutes up everything and dont feel like toothbrushent he **** outta my plugs and o2 sensor. thanks
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Old May 4, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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Im about to go try tuning my car with the moates and had 1 more question, i cant find com 3 or com 4 under control panel or moates. I have windows xp if that makes a difference.


Modified by 97civicdxt at 9:55 AM 5/4/2007
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Old May 4, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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Are you looking in the right place?

Control Panel -&gt; System -&gt; Hardware -&gt; Device Manager -&gt; Ports (COM)

If the ostrich is plugged into your laptop's USB port, and the moates driver is installed, it should show up in the "Ports (COM)" list.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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I always start the computer with ostrich unplugged and open control panel. Then plug the ostrich in. It will collapse then expand the com ports letting you know its connected. The double click on the new com (ostrich) then goto advanced properties and select COM3 or 4. It may say com being used by another, just ok it.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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kk did all that, set both baud's to 19200 set it to com 3 tested connection and it failed, so i tried it at 192000 and the 1 on control panel is 192300 or sommin like that test connection and it like freezes the computer but i can still click ont he tabs in crome jsut cant x outta crome, is it tryin to connect and takes awhile? And for the record when i start crome is throws out error 3. and does my car have to be on accessories or on to connect tot he ecu or anything or can i tune it while the cars off cuz i gotta decrease fuel by tons.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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I/O error 103*
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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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please, need an answer quick, want to drive this beast
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Old May 4, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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hahaha vista.

This info is taken from PGMFI.org courtsey of THE-ONE:

You have to take OWNERSHIP of the CROME.EXE file under properties.

HERE IS HOW!!!!!!!!!

Find the CROME.EXE file in the CROME directory and right-click on it and press PROPERTIES.Then you will see a group of tabs click on COMPATIBILITY check the "Run this program as an administrator" now go back to the group of tabs and click on SECURITY. Now you will see "GROUP or USER NAMES" click on EDIT. Now click on ADMINISTRATOR and look down were it says "PERMISSIONS FOR ADMINISTRATORS" click on all the boxes under allow, all of them should have "CHECKS" except special permissions click "OK". Now in the same window for the "SECURITY" tab click on "ADVANCED". Now you will see a tab called " OWNER" click on it.
Now click on "EDIT" and you will see ADMINISTRATOR click on it and click on "APPLY" and then press "OK" on all open windows.

This is the only way I got Crome to work with Vista. Datalogging and Ostrich works perfect with no issues I personally think Crome runs smoother now running Vista but that is just a personal thought you might hate it anyway I hope this will help someone and please don't Flame me for trying to help someone else might have a better way of doing this it was the only way I know how to get it running. If this works for you please try sharing the info with others.
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Ok maybe try the 920000 as your baud rates. It only works on mine at the old 19200 Craig has alot of helpful info on his site about his products moates.net http://www.moates.net/zips/cro...6.pdf should help you get going. Also check xenocron he has a good write up to get you going will have search cause at work now and can't find quick enuf
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Old May 4, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Hate to say it, i got it all worked out perfectly to a fine point. Now i come accross the problem of testing the connection and it in a way freezing crome. But not really, i can still click on the tabs in the settings screenw ehre u set the buad and everything, jsut cant x out, or ok or cancel, so any ideas?
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Old May 4, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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Hey i got moates connected and everything and messed wioth the idle rpms and the gas distribution and it didnt do anything, so what is the easiest way to decrease fuel at idle? Also is their a way to control the fuel at different throttle %"S or rpms? Can i also tune the car while its running or in the second click of the ignition? Because whatever it ry to do doesnt really seem to do anything, plz help.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 06:25 AM
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after you toggle the rom button at the top when it adds the new buttons you have to click on real time adjustment button. Then it will work. You can't adjust by TPS/RPM you can only adjust by map pressure/RPM.
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Old May 7, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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thanks, well i cant check codes with my obd1 ecu plugged in, but with my obd2 i can, and i get the iacv cuz i converted it to 2 wire im guessing. But what would cause it not to check codes witht he obd1 ecu plugged in? Is it the conversion harness?
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Old May 7, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Are you sure your getting a CEL?? If you jump the connector Key on it will stay on once you unjump it the CEL light will go off then your fine. If the CEL comes on and doesn't flash there is something wrong with either the ECU or the base map in the ECU.
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