i got a b16, and i'm gonna be getting a 00 ITR head for it soon. i was looking to get a headgasket for it, preferably a slightly thinner one to push up compression a bit. anyone got any good options?

 

Spoon, Toda, JUN, the list goes on. Just about any company that builds a lot of serious Honda engine products will have one.

 

thanx for the reminder man...i totally forgot about the "big three"

 

Sure, anytime.

 

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I've never seen a JUN headgasket, and Toda only manufactures stock-thickness and thicker-than-stock gaskets.

Mugen and Spoon are the two most popular choices for thinner gaskets, and either would most likely be fine. My personal choice would be Mugen, simply because it seems to be more widely used, and I've heard fewer cases of sealing problems with it. The Mugen gasket we used on my brother's motor sealed perfectly well.

 

yeah..i just checked up w/ that. jun doesn't make headgaskets, and today only makes stock thickness n' thinner (to be used in conjunction w/ thier high comp pistons). mugen and spoon are the only big boys that offer high comp gaskets. i think i'd go w/ the spoon though because its actually a lil thinner than the mugen .45 mm vs .47. but their both in similar price ranges. i found the mugen for $125, and the spoon for $136.

 

whoops, must have been thinking of something else. Smack me please.

 

Here you go:
http://titanmotorsports.com/spoonspor2la.html

 

Just rip a layer off of the stock gasket that is all all the others are like spoon or mugen same thing just missing a layer

 

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I'm not sure where you found that information, but the Mugen gasket is definitely not an OEM gasket with the middle layer removed. The aftermarket gaskets are designed to properly seal with 2 layers (materials, laser-welded ribs, etc.) , whereas the OEM is obviously not. Have people done it successfully? Sure, but why not spend slightly more for a higher quality piece with a lesser chance of leaking or blow-out, especially considering the labor involved in pulling/installing a head.

 

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I'm not sure where you found that information, but the Mugen gasket is definitely not an OEM gasket with the middle layer removed. The aftermarket gaskets are designed to properly seal with 2 layers (materials, laser-welded ribs, etc.) , whereas the OEM is obviously not. Have people done it successfully? Sure, but why not spend slightly more for a higher quality piece with a lesser chance of leaking or blow-out, especially considering the labor involved in pulling/installing a head. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Granted it may not be an OEM gasket but it is around the same desgn if your ripping the middle layer out then all the lines for sealing and what not are still there on the top and the bottom correct if you torqe the head down properly to spec i see no problem with doing this i for one have never seen them blow with the middle layer gone (mine didn't). Also the mugen is a 1 layer (sorry for missinformation) but it looks just like the OEM gasket on the underside and is totally flat on the upper side (exept around the bores) unlike an OEM gasket where as it has dimples and whatnot all throught the top. All i am saying is why spend 120 bucks on something when you can have an OEM with the middle layer pulled out of it for 50 bucks is the going rate throughout the web (NEW OEM) just My opinion.

 

its a nice idea, but...it is a ghetto mod, and i'm not looking to do anything like that. especially if there's the change that i might blow it, forget that...

 

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It isn't a ghetto mod it is a cheap effective mod i have had no problems with doing this the only way i would see that it would blow is that the head isn't torqued down properly look at the mugen head gasket looks a whole lot like the bottom layer of an OEM gasket correct?? I think there is just as much of a chance blowing a stock 3 layer head gasket as there is with modded OEM gasket made 2 layer so take it as you will that is my .02

 

I have a Mugen headgsket for sale, brand new in packaging75 bucks, let me know.