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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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hey everyone,

just put together my lsv with p30's. new rings, rod bearings etc. car has fuel, spark and compression but the MF will not fire! not sure if there is something common I for got to plug in or I just have the shitty-est luck ever, its in my 91 si rex. any clues or go to's would be awesome!

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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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check timing
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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timing is set. mechanical is dead and ive adjusted the dizzy and still no good.
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 08:15 PM
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check your timing again like he ^ said.
check all your grounds, make sure all connected.
check battery.
check to hear if your fuel pump primes.
check ignition coil.
check main/fuel relay, if fuel pump wont prime main/fuel relay could be bad.
make sure u have the plugs plugged right.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 06:23 AM
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Will post pics of the mechanical timing later. All 3 major grounds are bottomed out. Using an over sized battery as of right now. Pump loads and cylinders a getting fuel. Plugs are from top of dizzy 3 4 1 2 from top l top r bottom l to bottom r, and away from the front cover 1234.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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here is the mechanical timing.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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are you sure your getting spark?

give it a test hold the boot with some pliers and have a friend crank the motor and touch metal with the end of the sparkplug somewhere on the body, u should see blue spark

or test with digital multimeter
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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yea, i grounded it to the studs on the exhaust manifold and had spark, re gapted the plugs to 38 and still nothing.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 01:13 PM
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inspect your injectors

check your injector wiring, make sure there correct.
should be yellow/yellow, yellow/blue, yellow red, and yellow/brown start from the left to the right
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 01:15 PM
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from the front cover to the rear main?
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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cylinder #4 is the one closest to the distributor. start from there working your way to the right to #1

cyl #4 yellow/yellow
cyl #3 yellow/blue
cyl #2 yellow/red
cyl #1 yellow/brown
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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all the injectors checked out, cranks and sounds like it wants to run but doesnt fire, doesnt run on starter fluid either, drawing blanks......
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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are you getting fuel?

can you hear the fuel pump priming when you switch the key in II position, turn everything off and listen carefully, it will make a some sort of humming noise when it turns on you will hear it.

try that
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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yea, pump hums and compression blows the un used fuel out the holes with no plugs in it.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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make sure your plugs look like this

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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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if its a fresh built motor, it will take more then few cranks to start. Most importantly open the throttle all the way and crank it a few times, you will start to hear it starting slowly..
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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yea firing order is right, cranked it till i killed the battery......twice haha. opend the tb for both oxygen and starting fluid. feel like its somthing electrical, brand new td44 dizzy so idk where to go, gona check the ckp sensor and maybe MAF.
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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defiantly check the ckp sensor, could be bad. i did not know you were obd2

also, try swapping ecu's with a friend. see what happens
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Old Apr 26, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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got it to run, runs like garbo. wont rev past 2800 rpm. started on my buddys p75 then ran on my p28.
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 05:55 AM
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its probably in limp mode now,

what was the issue?
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Old Apr 27, 2011 | 06:19 AM
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Yea that's what I'm hearing, just running like a dog. Dose t rev past 2800rpm. Seems like a wiring or ecu issue so the limp mode mikes since, just don't know how to get it out
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by H22SHtec
Yea that's what I'm hearing, just running like a dog. Dose t rev past 2800rpm. Seems like a wiring or ecu issue so the limp mode mikes since, just don't know how to get it out
sounds like a wiring issue..

you probably have some of the engine harness plugs swapped in the wrong connectors, make sure wiring is correct.

make sure the tps is not swapped with map, and the IAT sensor isn't swapped with another sensor etc..
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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any idea where I can get a diagram for that, sucks because the crx has a bunch of loose **** and Im not sure if everything is hooked up right
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by blackedEk
sounds like a wiring issue..

you probably have some of the engine harness plugs swapped in the wrong connectors, make sure wiring is correct.

make sure the tps is not swapped with map, and the IAT sensor isn't swapped with another sensor etc..
I had almost the same issue once and it was the sensor wires swapped. It is very easy to confuse the MAP with TPS - I would check that first or swap it.
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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Im gona give that a shot and hope it solves my problem, thanks
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