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Old May 12, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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one of the major problems with big non vtec cams is that due to the large overlap at idle you need to dump tons of fuel into the engine to idle it

ok just out of curiosity does a vacuum canister help that at all like this one?

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will this help reduce the extra fuel at idle at all? i dont really care about vacuum for the brakes im more concerned about streetability
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Old May 12, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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Old May 13, 2003 | 08:21 AM
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no one?
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Old May 13, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCushing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one of the major problems with big non vtec cams is that due to the large overlap at idle you need to dump tons of fuel into the engine to idle it

ok just out of curiosity does a vacuum canister help that at all like this one?

will this help reduce the extra fuel at idle at all? i dont really care about vacuum for the brakes im more concerned about streetability</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeha on a couple customers car with huge duration LS cams, I used two extra canister and it helped idle at around 950-1000 rpm ... I got the canisters from Jegs the first time, but 2nd time I used a couple of GSR secondary runner canisters.

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Old May 13, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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Just seems like dead weight to me...How much more **** can one put on to their cars? Seems like something more fiiting for a V8 or something.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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if its functional then how is it dead weight?
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Old May 13, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JCushing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if its functional then how is it dead weight?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It`s not necessary. I run the biggest stage Crower cam possible on the street(along with countless other high performance mods) and I have never had a bad idle due to lack of vacuum. So what good is it going to do for me? Nada.

There are plenty of functional thing on the market that are simply worthless...I believe this to be one of them. Just my opinon
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Old May 13, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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what cam do you run? i was thinking crower 62405a or similar cams
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Old May 13, 2003 | 09:56 AM
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63402(-2) crower`s *updated* version...LoL. They say they won`t break this time...Hmmm, we have yet to see
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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:00 AM
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Default Re: idling big non vtec cams (sinister)

maybe you missed the NON in the title of this post. you dont need a vacuum can to idle vtec cams. im talking about a non vtec cam that has the same duration all the time as the lobe of the vtec profile on the cam you are running
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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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Well then, I`m at a loss

lol...NON-vtec cams, I fail to read the lines, I only read in between them
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Old May 13, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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I can't get my car to idle for anything. When it's cold it idles fine, than once it's warmed up it won't hold and idle.
62404 crower cams
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Old May 13, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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i think it has to do with compression. the higher the compression the better the car will idle. IMO, this helps the engine power through the lopeyness. I had a 11:1 cr ls that I had crower stg 3 (.427" and.420" i think) and it idled good. The guy i sold them to put them in a stock motor w/ just the head done and it idled like sheet. my other buddy's ls idled bad with the stock compression and got noticeably better when he rebuilt the bottom end w/ itr pistons.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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what RPM are you guys talkin about for idle also...
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Old May 15, 2003 | 07:22 AM
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anyone else?
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