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Old 10-09-2009, 12:13 AM
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I have a '00 Honda Civic CX, d16y7. I did a mini-me, d16y8 head, ECU & harness. I put a Skunk2 intake manifold and a STP 68mm throttle body. My car throws "check engine" light. I scanned it and it says its IACV is bad. I cleaned it out and it still does. The two hoses are not connected but when I opened that part to clean there is nothing there but an empty space. The car lacks ***** up to about 3k rpms then runs good. Could it be because of the two hoses or my IACV is bad? Any help would help and thanks in advance to all!
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those are two coolant hoses, take em off and see if they're clogged
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check your connector, could be defected
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are you saying those hoses arent plugged in? they need to be
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The hoses feed engine coolant to and from the IACV in order to warm a thermowax within the IACV. This thermowax expands with heat (or conversely retracts with colder temperatures) allowing less or more air through per associated temperatures. Once on the cold side (it allows more air through in order to compensate for cold climates).

What I would do is run temporary wires from the battery (or small gator clips) to the IACV solenoid in order to see if it actuates (if you hear a click). If you don't hear anything, it isn't functioning at all.
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Originally Posted by mouab18c1
check your connector, could be defected
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those are two coolant hoses, take em off and see if they're clogged
Checked the connector and not defected and checked the the hoses and not clogged.
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Originally Posted by Simkin314
The hoses feed engine coolant to and from the IACV in order to warm a thermowax within the IACV. This thermowax expands with heat (or conversely retracts with colder temperatures) allowing less or more air through per associated temperatures. Once on the cold side (it allows more air through in order to compensate for cold climates).

What I would do is run temporary wires from the battery (or small gator clips) to the IACV solenoid in order to see if it actuates (if you hear a click). If you don't hear anything, it isn't functioning at all.
Gonna go try this out and see whats up be back in a few...
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doesnt the cx/dx intake manifold have a three wire iacv and the ex have a two wire???
just wondering i dont remember, if so then there is your problem
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Originally Posted by lillex
doesnt the cx/dx intake manifold have a three wire iacv and the ex have a two wire???
just wondering i dont remember, if so then there is your problem
sounds like the problem to me. the fix...

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Originally Posted by lillex
doesnt the cx/dx intake manifold have a three wire iacv and the ex have a two wire???
just wondering i dont remember, if so then there is your problem
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sounds like the problem to me. the fix...


Yeah that is true it is a three wire(CX/DX) and EX two wire. And there is a orange wire not connected to anything on plug for the IACV, on the harness. I have the '99-'00 OBD2b EX ECU and harness though...
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Originally Posted by Simkin314
The hoses feed engine coolant to and from the IACV in order to warm a thermowax within the IACV. This thermowax expands with heat (or conversely retracts with colder temperatures) allowing less or more air through per associated temperatures. Once on the cold side (it allows more air through in order to compensate for cold climates).

What I would do is run temporary wires from the battery (or small gator clips) to the IACV solenoid in order to see if it actuates (if you hear a click). If you don't hear anything, it isn't functioning at all.
I dident hear a click but i was hearing a humming noise as if a small electric motor was running.
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I dident hear a click but i was hearing a humming noise as if a small electric motor was running.
The IACV is a solenoid (which is basically just a plunger style rod that goes back and forth). If there is a hum and not a click, I am figuring it is jammed/plugged up. There is a thread somewhere on how to clean it but be careful.

Oh, the other responses suggest you may have a three wire and I don't know how the three wire version works offhand. Do you have a 3 or 2 wire version?
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The IACV is a solenoid (which is basically just a plunger style rod that goes back and forth). If there is a hum and not a click, I am figuring it is jammed/plugged up. There is a thread somewhere on how to clean it but be careful.

Oh, the other responses suggest you may have a three wire and I don't know how the three wire version works offhand. Do you have a 3 or 2 wire version?
Took a friends off whos IACV is exactly the same as mine on a LS though and it sounds the same. His car is running right to. I guess you can here a very faint click/hum. I'm thinking its either gonna be the the two coolant hoses that need to be connected or the orange wire that is not connected. Here is a picture of it. The yellow and blue one wires are the two connected to the two-wire plug and the orange is the one not connected to anything...
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Default Re: IACV: Needs to be replaced, adjusted or ???

Connected the coolant hoses to the IACV and it still it throwing check engine even after I reset it. I am thinking it is gonna be the third(orange) wire thats not connected or my IACV is bad. Can anyone help me out!?!
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Connected the coolant hoses to the IACV and it still it throwing check engine even after I reset it. I am thinking it is gonna be the third(orange) wire thats not connected or my IACV is bad. Can anyone help me out!?!
Assuming these instructions are valid, your IACV might not be wired up appropriately.

What the others in this thread are saying is that with the swap, the IACV needed to be converted from a 3 wire to a 2 wire design. This was done by cutting the orange wire (and ignoring it) and running the yellow/black and black/blue wires to the 2 wire IACV (which according to the pictures, was probably done right).

With this changeover, the instructions posted by others suggest you need to move the wire on your ECU plug A from position A14 to A12 thereby wiring up the IACV to the appropriate ecu output. If this wasn't done, it probably won't work.

Hope that helps but please note, I have not worked on your engine nor on any OBD2 engine.
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Anyone know if this is what I need to do? Might sound like a dumb question but just learning about all this. Any and all help is appreciated!
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I found a pinout for your (assuming you have OBD2b) ecu. It appears that your find is correct. B23 is IACV (black/blue) and B15 is IACV negative (which is not used since you are using the yellow/black wire).


http://www.ff-squad.com/technet/wiring.obd2b.htm

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yeah looks like i jumped the gun and didnt pay attention to obd2a vs b. so basically for the 2-wire iacv and obd2b ecu. one pin goes to b23 and the other gets ignition power
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Originally Posted by Simkin314
I found a pinout for your (assuming you have OBD2b) ecu. It appears that your find is correct. B23 is IACV (black/blue) and B15 is IACV negative (which is not used since you are using the yellow/black wire).


http://www.ff-squad.com/technet/wiring.obd2b.htm

p.s. I have ff-squad bookmarked
Alright sick gonna do start on in a few. Be back with results!
...yeah gonna bookmark it too!
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Originally Posted by dpetro1
yeah looks like i jumped the gun and didnt pay attention to obd2a vs b. so basically for the 2-wire iacv and obd2b ecu. one pin goes to b23 and the other gets ignition power
Its cool and thanks for the help! Be back with results in a few....
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Did the pin out fix and still throwing check engine even after I reset it. Could it be the IACV that is just bad now? HELP!!!

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Did the pin out fix and still throwing check engine even after I reset it. Could it be the IACV that is just bad now? HELP!!!
Start your engine, unplug the IACV and take a voltage readout. You should generally have 12+volts between the 2 wires. What I tried to do was run an LED from the 2 nodes to be sure the IACV was getting power. That way, I could understand things by comparing how the engine ran with the IACV LED indicator.

and I know, throwing money at a problem really bites.

EDIT: if you do the LED idea, make sure you have appropriate polarization and a current limiting resister in series
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did you check with a multimeter to make sure you are getting 12 volts to one side?
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IACV does not need to have coolant running to and from it in order to function correctly, so dont worry about them.
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Originally Posted by Simkin314
Start your engine, unplug the IACV and take a voltage readout. You should generally have 12+volts between the 2 wires. What I tried to do was run an LED from the 2 nodes to be sure the IACV was getting power. That way, I could understand things by comparing how the engine ran with the IACV LED indicator.

and I know, throwing money at a problem really bites.

EDIT: if you do the LED idea, make sure you have appropriate polarization and a current limiting resister in series
Originally Posted by dpetro1
did you check with a multimeter to make sure you are getting 12 volts to one side?
Gonna check the volts in a little. I'll be back with results later today.


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