Tech / Misc Tech topics that don't seem to go elsewhere.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

how much horsepower

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 28, 2003 | 09:32 PM
  #1  
fuccarlos's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Laguna Niguel ,Ca
Default how much horsepower

Whats up I was just wondering how much horsepower could i expect with my current setup that i have in my crx after it is broke in?

B18c
resleeved with 86mm sleeves from golden eagle
Arias 86mm pistons with gold coated dome tops
D.p.r stage 7 head with
Welded and reshaped combustion chamber (clover leaf pattern)
Crower cams specially ground with no overlap
Titainium retainer with custom D.P.R valve springs
Oversized ferrera valves half a mm over
All jethot coated
A.E.B.S. head studs
Jdm type-r manifold portmatched
Erick's racing 70mm throttle body
550 cc rc injectors
X.S. fpr
Prodrive oilpump
M.S.D digital 7
JDM type r header (one piece w/2and 1/2 collector) for now until i get a hytech
running 100 octaine minimum
Greddy E-manage with E-01 w/out boost port
93 GSR cable tranny
obd-0 to obd-1 conversion
p-28 chipped
Reply
Old May 28, 2003 | 10:39 PM
  #2  
AllmotorJunkie's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,921
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, Ca, USA
Default Re: how much horsepower (fuccarlos)

200-215 whp is my best guess. I am being generous too.
Reply
Old May 28, 2003 | 10:48 PM
  #3  
fuccarlos's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Laguna Niguel ,Ca
Default Re: how much horsepower (AllmotorJunkie)

whoa ive been told like 235 240 whp by a coulpe of friends maybe they were wrong my b20 made 200whp to bad the sleeves cracked
Reply
Old May 29, 2003 | 06:02 AM
  #4  
1bad-eg's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,017
Likes: 0
From: Calhoun, GA
Default Re: how much horsepower (fuccarlos)

I'd say with the right tuning, about 235-240 to the wheel.
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 02:40 AM
  #5  
fuccarlos's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Laguna Niguel ,Ca
Default Re: how much horsepower (1bad-eg)

yeah cant wait to dyno
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 02:59 AM
  #6  
non-VTEC's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 6,212
Likes: 2
From: Toronto, Canada
Default Re: how much horsepower (fuccarlos)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fuccarlos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Crower cams specially ground with no overlap </TD></TR></TABLE>

why you having custom cams made with no overlap? how do you expect to make any N/A power without it?
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 05:23 AM
  #7  
b19coupe's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,854
Likes: 4
From: Southern California, U.S.A.
Default Re: how much horsepower (non-VTEC)

Are you running boost? The only reason for less overlap. N/A motors like overlap. If this motor is N/A, I would guess about 200 whp. Better cams and more tuning and you could get 230-250 depending...
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 05:38 AM
  #8  
.RJ's Avatar
.RJ
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 30,826
Likes: 0
From: RIP Craig Jones
Default Re: how much horsepower (b19coupe)

Doesnt matter anyways, its a ricer's wet dream shopping list. He really has no idea what he's trying to get himself into.
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 07:40 AM
  #9  
All Motor Rex's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
From: Everywhere
Default Re: how much horsepower (fuccarlos)

Other than the cams and header, I don't see why you shouldn't make 230-240.
What compression are you running on this? Did Dan do the whole motor or just your head?
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 07:57 AM
  #10  
BluntMan's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
From: B.F.E., CA, United States
Default Re: how much horsepower (fuccarlos)

no overlap will provide good bottom end but your top end will be held back hardcore! who convinced you that no overlap was the way to go? were you planning on throwing a turbo on it? and im curious what your compression is. and are running a stock 87.2mm crank?
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 11:31 PM
  #11  
fuccarlos's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Laguna Niguel ,Ca
Default Re: how much horsepower (.RJ)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Doesn't matter anyways, its a ricer's wet dream shopping list. He really has no idea what he's trying to get himself into.</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah to bad Ive already own everything listed and mommy didint pay for it either in case you were bring that up as your next reply. and im neck deep in it so i do have an ideal as to what im doing.
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 11:35 PM
  #12  
fuccarlos's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Laguna Niguel ,Ca
Default Re: how much horsepower (All Motor Rex)


What compression are you running on this? Did Dan do the whole motor or just your head?[/QUOTE]Dan only did the head work and did a bomb job he sure knows his sh@t and the compression was 13.1 yeah i know kinda high but its worth it
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 11:41 PM
  #13  
10K2HVN's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,769
Likes: 0
From: Orange County, CALIFORNIACATIONATED, USA
Default Re: how much horsepower (fuccarlos)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you running boost? The only reason for less overlap. N/A motors like overlap. If this motor is N/A, I would guess about 200 whp. Better cams and more tuning and you could get 230-250 depending...</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats why it sounds shady...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Doesnt matter anyways, its a ricer's wet dream shopping list. He really has no idea what he's trying to get himself into.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ditto.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fuccarlos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dan only did the head work and did a bomb job he sure knows his sh@t and the compression was 13.1 yeah i know kinda high but its worth it </TD></TR></TABLE>
from the way you make it sound..sounds like your running 15:1...13:1 isnt that high....
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 11:42 PM
  #14  
fuccarlos's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Laguna Niguel ,Ca
Default Re: how much horsepower (BluntMan)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BluntMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no overlap will provide good bottom end but your top end will be held back hardcore! who convinced you that no overlap was the way to go? were you planning on throwing a turbo on it? and im curious what your compression is. and are running a stock 87.2mm crank?</TD></TR></TABLE>no turbo, im a nos junkie and dan at dpr gave me spec on what cams were applicable for the head i have so i took that info and searched around and no one had these kind of cams so i called crower and they ground them costly i could of got a set from dpr but they wanted $900 for a set kinda on the steep side.
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 11:45 PM
  #15  
10K2HVN's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,769
Likes: 0
From: Orange County, CALIFORNIACATIONATED, USA
Default Re: how much horsepower (fuccarlos)

$900 is the going rate at CROWER as well...
good luck with your project.
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 11:47 PM
  #16  
fuccarlos's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Laguna Niguel ,Ca
Default Re: how much horsepower (10K2HVN)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 10K2HVN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
thats why it sounds shady...

ditto.

from the way you make it sound..sounds like your running 15:1...13:1 isnt that high....</TD></TR></TABLE>not trying to sound shady in anyway the motor really does exsist i have receipt's for everything listed and people who can vouch for its exsistance
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 11:48 PM
  #17  
fuccarlos's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Laguna Niguel ,Ca
Default Re: how much horsepower (10K2HVN)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 10K2HVN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$900 is the going rate at CROWER as well...
good luck with your project.</TD></TR></TABLE>more like $750
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 11:53 PM
  #18  
10K2HVN's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,769
Likes: 0
From: Orange County, CALIFORNIACATIONATED, USA
Default Re: how much horsepower (fuccarlos)

Crower's New B Series VTEC Race Core
Crower is pleased to introduce a new high performance core for the twin cam B series VTEC engine platform. This new core features bigger secondary and primary lobes for unlimited spec and the ability to run outer lobes only, grinding away the mid lobe. The fact that Crower grinds the cams in house gives you the opportunity to mix and match profiles for your particular application. Other possibilities are bigger idle lobes for increased performance on the bottom end, through the switchover point and beyond 10,000 rpm on the big mid lobe. This core is for serious race applications. Prices start at $750 for catalog grinds listed below , and $850 for custom cams with outer lobes only.

..ok, you win.
Reply
Old May 30, 2003 | 11:55 PM
  #19  
fuccarlos's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Laguna Niguel ,Ca
Default Re: how much horsepower (10K2HVN)

would of been 900 but luckily i get a shop discount
Reply
Old May 31, 2003 | 01:18 AM
  #20  
.RJ's Avatar
.RJ
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 30,826
Likes: 0
From: RIP Craig Jones
Default Re: how much horsepower (fuccarlos)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fuccarlos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah to bad Ive already own everything listed and mommy didint pay for it either in case you were bring that up as your next reply. and im neck deep in it so i do have an ideal as to what im doing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then why do you care how much HP we think it will make?

Break it in, and strap it on the rollers and do some tuning.
Reply
Old Jun 1, 2003 | 11:06 PM
  #21  
fuccarlos's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Laguna Niguel ,Ca
Default Re: how much horsepower (.RJ)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Then why do you care how much HP we think it will make?

Break it in, and strap it on the rollers and do some tuning.</TD></TR></TABLE>i wanted to know because im hearing alot of diffrent answers about how much it will make thought i would ask ht and see if i would get a diffrent opinion.
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2003 | 12:29 AM
  #22  
Goldfingiz's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,282
Likes: 0
Default Re: how much horsepower (fuccarlos)

That's a great setup

Too many haters in this thread
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2003 | 12:41 AM
  #23  
fuccarlos's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Laguna Niguel ,Ca
Default Re: how much horsepower (Goldfingiz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goldfingiz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's a great setup

Too many haters in this thread </TD></TR></TABLE>thanks. i know you tell them your setup and they say its a ricers dream shopping list
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2003 | 11:31 AM
  #24  
10K2HVN's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,769
Likes: 0
From: Orange County, CALIFORNIACATIONATED, USA
Default Re: how much horsepower (Goldfingiz)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goldfingiz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's a great setup

Too many haters in this thread </TD></TR></TABLE>
..just sounds really shaddy when he knows what he's got (or wants) and hes neck deep in it but doesnt know how much power he's gonna make??? our guess is as good as his..and theres details that hes leaving out that just doesnt make sense! sounds like he doesnt know what hes talkin about..oversized valves sounds like hes going boost but hes going NA&gt;??? short duration cams for 13:1 cr??? if he really has that setup then GOOD FOR HIM. and if he gets them at Shop discount then even better for him! ..but if hes come in here like a noob asking up how much power hes gonna make and how he got most of it for free and how the stuff that he did paid for he got at shop discount just to rub it in our faces then **** him and good luck......

..hope theres no hard feeling Goldfingiz
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2003 | 01:37 AM
  #25  
fuccarlos's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Laguna Niguel ,Ca
Default Re: how much horsepower (10K2HVN)

sounds like he doesnt know what hes talkin about..oversized valves sounds like hes going boost but hes going NA&gt;??? short duration cams for 13:1 cr??? if he really has that setup then GOOD FOR HIM. and if he gets them at Shop discount then even better for him! ..but if hes come in here like a noob asking up how much power hes gonna make and how he got most of it for free and how the stuff that he did paid for he got at shop discount just to rub it in our faces then **** him and good luck......


i never said i was going na. and im not trying to rub anything in anyones face i was just looking for opinions from others with similar setups to find out what works and what doesnt i have been building this motor for all nos setup not na ,or turbo so to clear up that issue im just here to get a diffrent view point on what kind of numbers that this motor could possibly be capable of with out the juice sorry if it seems shady im not trying to cause drama

Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:09 AM.