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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:56 AM
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Like the topic says, I'm looking for links to web resources discussing use of Honda D or B series engines in a mid-engine (not sandrail ideally) application. Much appreciated: links to manufacturers of tube frame chassis with engine/tranny mounts, as well as shift linkages.
Just something I'm starting to think about! Thanks all!
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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bump...anyone out there?
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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i know one..but sorry i cant tell you..id be verry jelious if you got it..so ill keep it a secret...
oh..but there is one that i cant tell you...but i gotta seach for it..ill be back...
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 02:59 PM
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ahhh... i found it ..via search...you should try out honda-tech's search function..i heard it make mericles ...
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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Default Re: Honda engines used in mid-engine applications? (10K2HVN)

Ok, maybe I wasn't clear - I did find that during a search. But that's a known car manufacturer (Lotus) that happens to use a Honda engine. What I'm looking for is a manufacturer of tubeframe chassis and other parts that would allow me to build a mid-engine car of my own. I don't want to say the awful words "kit car" but you get the idea.
Thanks though!
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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yep i know of one..but cant tell ya...
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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Default Re: Honda engines used in mid-engine applications? (malaclypse)

Not a kit car exactly... unless you want to buy a bunch of them from me. It uses the H22, not what you wanted, but you'll find it interesting. It's in my sig.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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Default Re: Honda engines used in mid-engine applications? (kb58)

I remember reading a Sport Compact Car a while back with a Type R (integra) engine in a Lotus?
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 07:25 PM
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i saw that one too.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 08:49 PM
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Yup, B18C5 in a grasshoppa
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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Ya there is one that I found about a year ago. It was a little roadster, that kinda looked like the Opel Speedster from what I remember, it was mid engine and even had exposed front suspension system through the hood. I think the way it worked was that you bought the front clip of an accord and had it welded or something to back half (just the chassis part, not the hood and fenders!!), so you could probably sub in a H22. I think the car weighed like 1100 Kg or something.
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Old Feb 1, 2003 | 02:09 AM
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shhhh....no more out of your mouth!!! it uses the whole accord engine cradle: front suspension and engine (placed in the back of the new car), along with some other accord stuff...whole front suspension of new car is is all custom with a 35 degree tilt (like the farrari F40), tubuler chassis, renforced plastic body custom headlights, lambo tail lights...whole engine compartment is similar to accord...so it can be replaced with an H22VTEC!!!! but will need the cable to hydro conversion...final design weighs less then 1870 lbs, wtih a fully built H22 AND the REAR ENGINE LAYOUT (rear wheel drive) that thing will smote anything on the street!!! and handle as good as any full built race farrari/porche/whatever!
but i think its time to zipit
..jeliousy will make you do weird things....


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Old Feb 1, 2003 | 09:15 AM
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http://www.euroworksltd.com/Attack/Attack-IT.htm
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Old Feb 1, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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..YOU *&$&^!_$*(&#!!!
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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 07:29 AM
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That's Bad-a$$. I think I found a new pipe dream. At least it's cheaper than the Ultima GT-R.

edit: That thing would rock turbo'd.


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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 08:08 AM
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i am also planning a mid engine layout. i think that the motor should be placed in front of the rear lower control arm mounting location, as these will hold the knuckles in back. the halfshafts will need to be almost straight across to the knuckles, so that would place the motor right behind the seats. mmmmm. mid engine.
you already have a hydraulic clutch, so to actuate the clutch all you need to do is run a line to the rear, where the slave cylinder would be. as for a shift linkage, my plan is to run 4 cables. two will run side to side on the shifter, and they will twist the "input shaft" on the transmission. the other two will push and pull on the input shaft. cables can't push, so that is why you need to run the two pairs of cables, as they will make two loops. when one pulls, the loop will allow the other to be "pushed." essentially, it will be just taking up the slack as the other is moving.

one reason i like the concept of a cable shifter is that it will allow the shifter to be placed anywhere. i would like to mount mine up next to the steering wheel, in the traditional rally car location.

the gas tank would need to be relocated to the front, as well as longer radiator hoses, and heater core lines if you plan to use them.
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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 08:11 AM
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Default Re: Honda engines used in mid-engine applications? (2ndhandCRX)

i dont know if anyone said this yet but apparently a type-r engine was used in a lotus elise, a mid-engined vehicle....
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Old Feb 2, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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I don't think your idea of putting the actuator by the steering wheel will work, due to the force and travel needed. Keep in mind they use sequential gearbox's so the travel is much less. If you really want a rally type shifter, use a sportbike engine and transmission. Then you get a 6-sp sequential box too.

Also, there most certainly are cables known as "push-pull" cables, which is what I use. There was no need for four cables. Check out my car project in my sig.




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