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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 07:48 PM
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ok i got a single cam zc vtec in my civic (95) hatch when i threw the motor in the motor would crank but wont turn on i just got a disribuidor cap becuz on of those sockets that u put the spark plug in broke off i was wondering if u guys can help me out oh by the way the battery has juice
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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Do you have spark to the plugs? Is fuel being injected? The timing of the motor OK? Check all your wiring and make sure your grounds are nice and secure.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 08:43 PM
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i just put the distributor cap on and still nothing how can i check if fuel is being injected into the car
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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Easiest way would be to undo the fuel line going to the fuel rail and have a friend turn the key in the ignition to on. If fuel comes out of the line, then you are getting fuel. Just be really careful doing this, you don't want your car going down in flames. So, you are sure that you are getting spark though?
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 09:08 PM
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i checked the fuel thing and had my friend turn the key while i was holding the fuel line and nothing , nothing came out as far as spark goes how can i check if its sparking?
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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im having the same prob but I at getting fuel sounds like it whats to start but wont
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Old Dec 16, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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i love it when someone has a thread about a problem and someone else randomly chimes in saying i have the same problem but different. haha.

If you dont have fuel then you start from there. check the main relay that it gets power and that power gets to the fuel fump.

As for the thread stealer check power at the ignition coil and if it does have it check the resistance of the coils primary and secondary
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Old Dec 17, 2012 | 06:36 PM
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For OP, sit in car, close the doors, turn everything off, then turn on the ign. switch to the run position, [not all the way to the start position] and look and listen...

Look at the cluster, does it "light up" including the CEL?

Listen for the fuel pump priming, it will run for no more then 3sec. and then turn off, at the same time the CEL should turn off, is any of that happening?

I am guessing not if there is no fuel to the fuel rail, if there is no fuel at the rail then it is a good bet the PGm_FI Main Relay is not working so no power to IGP1 and IGP2 of the ECU/ECM so no spark either.

As mentioned, deal with the fuel problem first, it may solve both of your problems, no fuel and no spark. 94
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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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if it's a single slammer ZC it's dual carby and has a mechanical pump so u cant do the usual 'listen for the pump priming' thang..

make sure you have fuel in the tank and a good battery and keep turning it over, try n spray some autostart into the carbs (remove airbox cover and filter) and this should make it stumble to life. if this doesnt work then time to check the ignition/spark.
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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Default Re: help!!! single slam zc vtec wont start

Originally Posted by VT3Chnique
if it's a single slammer ZC it's dual carby and has a mechanical pump so u cant do the usual 'listen for the pump priming' thang..
Say what??

It's a 95 Civic it is fuel injected and has a PGM-FI Main Relay

The ZC SOHC VTEC engine is a JDM 1.6L much like the D16Z6 it is OBD1 MPFI, found in 91-95 JDM Civics.

Or am I missing something?94
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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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My apology to FCM, over here the only SOHC ZC's are dual carby, do NOT use that method I posted on a PGMFi.

we had the exact same probelm as you on a mate's project a couple of weeks ago but it was dual carby.. and the method I posted was the only way to get it going and once the mech fuel pump had pressure it was fine and starts first click every time since.

Last edited by Ash J. Williams; Dec 18, 2012 at 08:13 PM. Reason: none of that, last warning
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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by VT3Chnique

My apology to FCM, over here the only SOHC ZC's are dual carby, do NOT use that method I posted on a PGMFi.

we had the exact same probelm as you on a mate's project a couple of weeks ago but it was dual carby.. and the method I posted was the only way to get it going and once the mech fuel pump had pressure it was fine and starts first click every time since.
I remember them, but that was back in the mid 80s, right?

I am pretty sure it was not a VTEC engine, any market.

No biggie, understandable mistake, I would not have posted a "typical HT cowboy response" like, don't quit your day job, unless you had insisted it had "carbies" one or two more times, and definatly not before the OP re-posts and confirms it is MPFI and not a retro swap.

One thing, you have to get a thicker skin, you have to ignore the "cowboy responders" IMO it is ef_HaTchb18 that needs to "go somewhere" at least you were trying to help, ef_HaTchb18 contributed absolutely nothing to help the OP. 94

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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 07:34 PM
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HT cowboy yeah cool man real cool. anyways the op stated it was a 95 civic with a sohc zc "vtec" so why would you reply to the original post when you obviously didnt read it well.

on another note check your main relay and you should be able to put your hand on it and feel if its working or not i.e. a slight vibration. i just had to replace mine on my crx because it was doing the same thing. if thats not it then check your fuel pump and be sure its coming on and has the proper voltage.
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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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Check the ground on the engine near on the thremostat housing. It is used as a lot of things including the fuel pump. Last time I cahnged my motor same thing happened lights on the dash were not working correctly and no fuel. Took off the gound cleaned the grounding area and boom all worked again.
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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 08:55 PM
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yes again I apologise i missed the 'vtec' part but as far as I know there are NO 'ZC's with VTEC so i'd say someone has done a mini-me D-series VTEC head swap onto a ZC block. The SOHC ZC's have the largest displacement of the SOHC D-series Blocks and a decent jump in compression if you slap a D16Y1/D15B8/D16A8 VTEC head on there.

and yep, the car I am talking about was a 94 EG 'GL', not a retro swapped motor or anything, stock from the factory.

FCM, thanks for your comments, I am just tired of these kids that know everything and are so fast to abuse and criticise.. they have destroyed the legitimacy of so many web forums and really do have nothing constructive to contribute.

This forum has a reputation for these kinds of posts/responses and I would encourage moderators to not tolerate THAT kind of behaviour if they want true enthusiasts with years of Honda experience to stay around here.

Originally Posted by ef_HaTchb18
HT cowboy yeah cool man real cool. anyways the op stated it was a 95 civic with a sohc zc "vtec" so why would you reply to the original post when you obviously didnt read it well.
Obviously this member is trying to pour fuel on the fire..

Perhaps they should have just posted "it's not a carby, it's a PGMFi" if they really need to mash on the keyboard. I always post from personal experience over working on my own Hondas (and those Members of the Honda Car Club I started in 2002) for the past 11 years etc.

Thanks.

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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by VT3Chnique
yes again I apologise i missed the 'vtec' part but as far as I know there are NO 'ZC's with VTEC
Actually there is a SOHC ZC VTEC, it was a 1590cc 128HP OBD1 MPFI engine with 9.2:1 compression built for 91-95 JDM Civics. 94
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