gsr into crx.
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Re: gsr into crx. (ILOVEGIRLS)
Engine/Tranny/Axles (not sure which)/ECU/Wiring harness.
http://www.hasport.com
Got to tech info and look there.
[Modified by Spade, 3:23 PM 5/15/2002]
http://www.hasport.com
Got to tech info and look there.
[Modified by Spade, 3:23 PM 5/15/2002]
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Re: gsr into crx. (Spade)
some people will say it sits too low. Others will say its too high. (get a new hood) Some say it just doesn't work because its just too big. Its also really expensive. I feel the extra money for it is really not worth it. I wanted to put a gsr in my HF but i'm going Ls instead. Think about it.
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Re: gsr into crx. (CAMAROCRUSHER)
why are you going ls? the gsr motor is about the same size. im concerned about the mounts, axles and which harness to use. anyone else?
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Re: gsr into crx. (ILOVEGIRLS)
I just did mine. It's a 91 CRX si with a b18c and I used the new hasport mounts (sits alittle high even with the hood support cut off), 91 Integra LS axles/half shaft, stock wiring harness (add extra wires for the knock, iab,etc. sensors), and a obd0 to obd1 harness. All I have to say about this swap is that it's a very tight fit. Scratched the hell out of the sides by the tranny and crank bolt.
Oh yeh, use your stock CRX clutch cable, get a 94 and up heater hose (the one that connects to the heater pipe or something like that and don't get the cheap ones from the auto part stores). I can't think right now but if you need more info email me.
[Modified by CrxSi10, 3:21 AM 5/17/2002]
Oh yeh, use your stock CRX clutch cable, get a 94 and up heater hose (the one that connects to the heater pipe or something like that and don't get the cheap ones from the auto part stores). I can't think right now but if you need more info email me.
[Modified by CrxSi10, 3:21 AM 5/17/2002]
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Re: gsr into crx. (CrxSi10)
if you can shed more light than you already have, it would be appreciated. its not for my car, its for my friends car and we are gonna put it in. so i can use the crx harness? what year ecu and distributor were you running? this is all i have right now..
gsr long block.
i still need a tranny. what year tranny should i use? will a b16 cable tranny work? what injectors did u use? did u have to rewire the inhectors to accept the older plugs? thanks!!!
gsr long block.
i still need a tranny. what year tranny should i use? will a b16 cable tranny work? what injectors did u use? did u have to rewire the inhectors to accept the older plugs? thanks!!!
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Re: gsr into crx. (ILOVEGIRLS)
if you can shed more light than you already have, it would be appreciated. its not for my car, its for my friends car and we are gonna put it in. so i can use the crx harness? what year ecu and distributor were you running? this is all i have right now..
gsr long block.
i still need a tranny. what year tranny should i use? will a b16 cable tranny work? what injectors did u use? did u have to rewire the inhectors to accept the older plugs? thanks!!!
gsr long block.
i still need a tranny. what year tranny should i use? will a b16 cable tranny work? what injectors did u use? did u have to rewire the inhectors to accept the older plugs? thanks!!!
I've seen other methods also, like msd rpm switches to trigger the vtec and another one to trigger the 2ndaries, problem with that tho, is that the ecu (if its a non-vtec ecu) won't switch the fuel curve, etc.. when vtec kicks in. you're right tho - you could use a b16 cable tranny (well, you do need the cable tranny, unless you could convert it over to hydro). another option, run a jdm b16a1 ecu chipped w/ a skunk2 manifold on the gsR motor + just run the wires to vtec, etc... that way you'd be able to stay obd0 - but also you'd have get an obd0 b-series distributor (or get obd0 plugs + wire them into the distributor).
hope that helped some
-l8r
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Re: gsr into crx. (Amaury-R)
one problem with a gsr crx is that there are no ecu's that will open the secondary butterflies. so thats why lots of people go obd 1 with the swap but a way to do it is to get a skunk2 manifold or keeping the runners open at all times.
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Re: gsr into crx. (ILOVEGIRLS)
If you have an si it's not a problem, I'm just not sure about the hf or dx. I used a 94 GSR ecu (just get a obdo to obd1 harness from blownhatch 
and hook up the rest of the wires, instructions included). As for the distributor, mine came with the obd2 and I just wired it up to the stock CRX distributor plug (storminmatt has a writeup on obd0 to obd1 conversion ). For injectors, I used my stock engine harness so I used my crx si injectors. You can run the obd1 injectors but that takes alittle more work.
Side note: my mechanical v.s.s. was too short so I replaced it with an older integra v.s.s. I used a 92 GSR tranny but heard other people never had to change it.
and hook up the rest of the wires, instructions included). As for the distributor, mine came with the obd2 and I just wired it up to the stock CRX distributor plug (storminmatt has a writeup on obd0 to obd1 conversion ). For injectors, I used my stock engine harness so I used my crx si injectors. You can run the obd1 injectors but that takes alittle more work.Side note: my mechanical v.s.s. was too short so I replaced it with an older integra v.s.s. I used a 92 GSR tranny but heard other people never had to change it.
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Re: gsr into crx. (Amaury-R)
what car has the obd0 distributor?
if you can shed more light than you already have, it would be appreciated. its not for my car, its for my friends car and we are gonna put it in. so i can use the crx harness? what year ecu and distributor were you running? this is all i have right now..
gsr long block.
i still need a tranny. what year tranny should i use? will a b16 cable tranny work? what injectors did u use? did u have to rewire the inhectors to accept the older plugs? thanks!!!
crxsi10 has a good idea there, that would be more "proper" way of putting it in the car (obd1 conversion, etc...) so that the engine would run like it was in a gsR.
I've seen other methods also, like msd rpm switches to trigger the vtec and another one to trigger the 2ndaries, problem with that tho, is that the ecu (if its a non-vtec ecu) won't switch the fuel curve, etc.. when vtec kicks in. you're right tho - you could use a b16 cable tranny (well, you do need the cable tranny, unless you could convert it over to hydro). another option, run a jdm b16a1 ecu chipped w/ a skunk2 manifold on the gsR motor + just run the wires to vtec, etc... that way you'd be able to stay obd0 - but also you'd have get an obd0 b-series distributor (or get obd0 plugs + wire them into the distributor).
hope that helped some
-l8r
gsr long block.
i still need a tranny. what year tranny should i use? will a b16 cable tranny work? what injectors did u use? did u have to rewire the inhectors to accept the older plugs? thanks!!!
crxsi10 has a good idea there, that would be more "proper" way of putting it in the car (obd1 conversion, etc...) so that the engine would run like it was in a gsR.
I've seen other methods also, like msd rpm switches to trigger the vtec and another one to trigger the 2ndaries, problem with that tho, is that the ecu (if its a non-vtec ecu) won't switch the fuel curve, etc.. when vtec kicks in. you're right tho - you could use a b16 cable tranny (well, you do need the cable tranny, unless you could convert it over to hydro). another option, run a jdm b16a1 ecu chipped w/ a skunk2 manifold on the gsR motor + just run the wires to vtec, etc... that way you'd be able to stay obd0 - but also you'd have get an obd0 b-series distributor (or get obd0 plugs + wire them into the distributor).
hope that helped some
-l8r
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Re: gsr into crx. (ILOVEGIRLS)
i got hcp 4 mount kit and adjustable shiftlinkage from blown90hatch for a good price for my b20vtec
91civicsi has a gsr in his 91 hatch: zdyne chipped pm6(obd0) ecu, 91 civic wiring harness and injectors, 90 ls teg distributor, 90-93 axles and intermediate shaft, teg throttle cable, shunk2 manifold too, dont mess with the dual butterfly stuff
see if you can find some answers here http://www.hasport.com/information.htm
[Modified by Jeff C, 12:13 AM 5/18/2002]
91civicsi has a gsr in his 91 hatch: zdyne chipped pm6(obd0) ecu, 91 civic wiring harness and injectors, 90 ls teg distributor, 90-93 axles and intermediate shaft, teg throttle cable, shunk2 manifold too, dont mess with the dual butterfly stuff
see if you can find some answers here http://www.hasport.com/information.htm
[Modified by Jeff C, 12:13 AM 5/18/2002]
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Re: gsr into crx. (Jeff C)
I doubt u can even use a stock intake manifold, because it doesnt fit. With my setup, the IM ran into the fuel lines. But yeah, u have a number of options to go with. And as long as u have an si or hf harness as your base then u should be fine. As for me I am running all obd0 components, since i had a b16a b4. I am also using a chipped pr3 ecu with a gsr map. But I would recomend going with a obd0- obd1 harness and get a p28 chiped ecu. Thats what i am in the process of doing right now.
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Re: gsr into crx. (Jeff C)
i got hcp 4 mount kit and adjustable shiftlinkage from blown90hatch for a good price for my b20vtec
91civicsi has a gsr in his 91 hatch: zdyne chipped pm6(obd0) ecu, 91 civic wiring harness and injectors, 90 ls teg distributor, 90-93 axles and intermediate shaft, teg throttle cable, shunk2 manifold too, dont mess with the dual butterfly stuff
see if you can find some answers here http://www.hasport.com/information.htm
[Modified by Jeff C, 12:13 AM 5/18/2002]
91civicsi has a gsr in his 91 hatch: zdyne chipped pm6(obd0) ecu, 91 civic wiring harness and injectors, 90 ls teg distributor, 90-93 axles and intermediate shaft, teg throttle cable, shunk2 manifold too, dont mess with the dual butterfly stuff
see if you can find some answers here http://www.hasport.com/information.htm
[Modified by Jeff C, 12:13 AM 5/18/2002]
gsr motor
b16 cable trans w/ shitft linkage
obd0 to obd1 harness
motor mounts
obd1 gsr ecu
90-93 integ axles
b16 distibutor
some of the parts, i will buy from honda-tech members..thank
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Re: gsr into crx. (ILOVEGIRLS)
you might want to get a skunk2 mani
get a 90-93 ls intermediate shaft also so you dont have to build your own axles
you will need a obd1 dist, 92-95 teg
you will need gsr injector clips
ls throttle cable
modified delsol rad hoses (i think)
might as well anticipate changing timing belt and water pump
be prepared to bang, bend and cut a bit
get a 90-93 ls intermediate shaft also so you dont have to build your own axles
you will need a obd1 dist, 92-95 teg
you will need gsr injector clips
ls throttle cable
modified delsol rad hoses (i think)
might as well anticipate changing timing belt and water pump
be prepared to bang, bend and cut a bit
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Re: gsr into crx. (Jeff C)
you might want to get a skunk2 mani
get a 90-93 ls intermediate shaft also so you dont have to build your own axles
you will need a obd1 dist, 92-95 teg
you will need gsr injector clips
ls throttle cable
modified delsol rad hoses (i think)
might as well anticipate changing timing belt and water pump
be prepared to bang, bend and cut a bit
get a 90-93 ls intermediate shaft also so you dont have to build your own axles
you will need a obd1 dist, 92-95 teg
you will need gsr injector clips
ls throttle cable
modified delsol rad hoses (i think)
might as well anticipate changing timing belt and water pump
be prepared to bang, bend and cut a bit
sorry for the pester..this is going to be my first crx swap and i dont like down time.
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Re: gsr into crx. (ILOVEGIRLS)
i dont know if there are clearence problems or not on the gsr mani, it is the dual butterfly stuff on it that stump me. i heard that it is not worth mess of hooking that thing up, but i am sure somebody has done it.
yea, 90-93 ls axles and int shaft is what i meant
i was assuming that when you buy a gsr motor that it will come with the injectors too, and i believe that the your crx clips will be slightly different then the gsr clips.
yea, 90-93 ls axles and int shaft is what i meant
i was assuming that when you buy a gsr motor that it will come with the injectors too, and i believe that the your crx clips will be slightly different then the gsr clips.
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Re: gsr into crx. (Jeff C)
right.. there is no 89-91 ecu w/ IAB control.. hence, swapping to the sk2 manifold
will do away with alot of headaches. You can use the B16A injectors, they will
plug into your factory clips. You dont want to use GSR as they are saturated.
will do away with alot of headaches. You can use the B16A injectors, they will
plug into your factory clips. You dont want to use GSR as they are saturated.
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Re: gsr into crx. (Bombino)
the gsr intake manifold will not fit! and u might want to use all b16a components like distributer, injectors, alternator...etc. This will make it very easy. they all just plug and play.
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Re: gsr into crx. (C5_ALLMOTOR)
you guys have been great. im going to use the obd0 to obd1 converter so it can run like a reg gsr. you think this thing can run 12's stock? im searching for all the parts as we speak. im going to try to find b16a parts. btw: what year did the b16a come from? thanks.