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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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ok ive searched around for this but the only problem that ive seen poeple encounter when dropping their car is negative camber...is it also true that if u drop your car, the lifespan of your CV joints shorten cuz of the pressure put on them...i dropped my old accord with Eibach sportlines and i encountered really bad negative camber then my right CV joint blew...i was told that its a usual thing for cv joints to blow when a car is lowered....im planning on dropping my new accord on tein s tech's and am on a very tight budget and dont wanna blow my cv joints, so is it a possibility...could a camber kit take off some pressure on the cv joints...i didnt have them on my accord b4.
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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Default Re: Effects of Lowering car (Legendaryyaj)

the pressure on the cv joints depends on how low you drop the car and i dont think a camber kit will help any... and you said youre on a tight budget so a camber kit costs $$

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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 10:00 PM
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yea i know...they hella expensive...150 for the front and 180 for the back...im thinkin bout not droppin at all...but it kills me to not drop it...plus i need to buy new shocks on top of that.
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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I have 91 teg ls. Eibach Pro springs, KYB AXG in front, GR2 in back. Ingalls camber kit in front. OK - on the back, take out bolts on upper control arm, take the bolts and goto autoparts store or supply house, get SAME bolts ,HARDNESS,ect, but about 1" longer. Get yourself some flat washers, i took 5 on one side, 4 on another. grab a bunch. go home and install the bolts with the washers on the inside. put about 4 washers on at first, install n drop here. Check the camber with a level, from ground to tip of rim, measure distance from 90degree level to top of rim, mine was like 2-3cm negative camber. Thats a very pretty camber (e.g. stock). Make sure both sides are same camber, may take a diff # of washers on each side, for whatever reasons. yada yada, get 4 wheel alingment=$140.

Problems? only prob i really see is scraping, I havent had any problems with my CV joints or control arms. My brother has same car as me with eibach sportlines, very big diff in ride- his is terrible and only .5-1" lower. he hasnt lost any CV joints either. I've put 20k on my setup, he has 30k on his. I see no problem if you do everything correctly and have it aligned perfectly by someone who know's their trade.

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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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thanks man...does that rear camber trick work for every car...honda wise?
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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your car will barely even be lowered, with tein Stech springs. I think they only drop it like 1.7 or 2.0 which isn't ****. The stress you are talking about is the boot riping. you wont run into this problem. and if you are really worried abou the boot riping, then keep it mosturized with some thing that protects rubber, so that it will not dry out and crack.

and and don't buy a camber kit there worthless. camber doesn't cause tire wear toe cause tire wear
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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isnt 1.7 or 2 inch drop pretty low..i had my 5th gen accord dropped on sportlines which were rated at 1.9 and they was pretty damn low, the camber wear was pretty bad too but i was on stock struts...the s tech are supposed to be 2.2 drop for my 6th gen accord i believe...but thanx fo the info...appreciate it...im planning on upgrading my struts to Tokico HP's BTW.
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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Default Re: Effects of Lowering car (Legendaryyaj)

with a 17's, your tires wouldnt even tug with 3.5inch of drop
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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its good for that and track racing but im not doing that and it wears tires like hell and i dont have money to replace tires every so often...unless i go with some no name brand tire...17's are pretty expensive...
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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Default Re: Effects of Lowering car (Legendaryyaj)

first off. no 2 inchs isn't that low at all. i had my car over 2 times that low and was still easy to get around.


AND SECONDLY you don't need a FREAKIN camber kit. camber doesn't wear tires TOE DOES. i swear to god i post this **** all the time. just after you lower your car get it takein to an alingment shop and have them zero out your toe. honda's stock have full adjustments for toe.

but if you still think im lying and are stupid and want to waste money on a shitty camber kit. that will come loose or even break completely then go ahead do it it anit my money. im just trying to help people out cause i know alil something about suspension.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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aight...thanx man...i swear everyone thinkis its camber tha wears it out...if not them imma jus get it dropped and taken to get an a lignment...off hand about that....its pretty hard for regular shops to do alignment on a Honda huh...i had mine does twice and they still couldnt get it right, plus no other shop could do my cousins Legend, only the dealer could...thanx again slammed_93_hatch....imma take your expert adivce on it and forget about the camber kit...imma take it to the dealer but i think they gonna give me some bull about it. already see it comin...
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 12:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first off. no 2 inchs isn't that low at all. i had my car over 2 times that low and was still easy to get around.


AND SECONDLY you don't need a FREAKIN camber kit. camber doesn't wear tires TOE DOES. i swear to god i post this **** all the time. just after you lower your car get it takein to an alingment shop and have them zero out your toe. honda's stock have full adjustments for toe.

but if you still think im lying and are stupid and want to waste money on a shitty camber kit. that will come loose or even break completely then go ahead do it it anit my money. im just trying to help people out cause i know alil something about suspension.</TD></TR></TABLE>

2inches can be low based on the car. civics are pretty flat on the bottom. DA's and preludes i believe have teh engine mounted low. 2" would leave about 4" between the jacking point and the floor. the header even lower. some aftermarket resonators ie greddy sp = even lower.

sorry but if you knew a lil somethin about suspension you wouldnt be saying all this. youre right in that bad toe will increase wear rapidly, but just leaving camber at -2 to -3 degrees for daily driving is not practical either. its great for cornering but the straight line contact patch is reduced which means its more dangerous and even worse for launching (i assume people on the street drag more than touge).

camber kits come loose and break apart inevitably? come on, the ingalls anchor type kits are the most popular and proven. the balljoint/replacement arms even better. just dont use generic ebay crap.

geesh.
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