Dyno testing of synthetic oils
If you can get your hand on some of this stuff http://www.lelube.com/Products_Racing.asp that would be cool. This stuff is suposed to be better than mobil 1.
oh my that can't be possible
I like many others don't belive when a company does the testing themselves. If you click on the dyno testing link it will bring up a few different test (from different places) and it is kind of interesting. For the people that don't see the link to click on. http://www.lelube.com/Technical_DynoTesting.asp.
The site has some pretty cool tests and comparisons. I've asked many people about it and they never heard of it, saw that it wasn't on your list so I'm suggesting it. I hope that this oil can be in your testing. Here are some more charts, oil testing, not dyno testing. http://www.lelube.com/Technical_ProductTesting.asp
I'd like for someone (you) to be able to back up the company's testing and see if this stuff is as good as they make it look.
oh my that can't be possible
I like many others don't belive when a company does the testing themselves. If you click on the dyno testing link it will bring up a few different test (from different places) and it is kind of interesting. For the people that don't see the link to click on. http://www.lelube.com/Technical_DynoTesting.asp. The site has some pretty cool tests and comparisons. I've asked many people about it and they never heard of it, saw that it wasn't on your list so I'm suggesting it. I hope that this oil can be in your testing. Here are some more charts, oil testing, not dyno testing. http://www.lelube.com/Technical_ProductTesting.asp
I'd like for someone (you) to be able to back up the company's testing and see if this stuff is as good as they make it look.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just dont see why be cheap aout it.</TD></TR></TABLE>im guessing that why you use OBX camshafts...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahahohoho i just wanted to try something different.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Try basing your reputation on obx. Its a lot easier to look for gauranteed results with reputable companies. Though i look forward to your results as im not into the tried and true either. Break new ground if you can , if you cant let it be what it is. Just dont bs us either.
Try basing your reputation on obx. Its a lot easier to look for gauranteed results with reputable companies. Though i look forward to your results as im not into the tried and true either. Break new ground if you can , if you cant let it be what it is. Just dont bs us either.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudemanDan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey backpurge, maybe you should start this thread afresh so you don't have these people's bickering all over the first page.
Dan
P.S. I'll try and send those filters out Monday.</TD></TR></TABLE>
great idea, the ignorant tools, please back off.
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P.S. I'll try and send those filters out Monday.</TD></TR></TABLE>
great idea, the ignorant tools, please back off.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraType-R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LMFao first off, ya, really i got owned on a fourm, sorry no...but..no
I posted my opinion, little kid i've seen obx cams in 3 cars down here, two had crower cams, one had toda, they, were stage 3's and obx made +3 hp over the crowers and over +8 on the todas? give me a fucken break how do i not know what i'm talking about..lol!!
The motor issuse lets talk about that, because maybe i was just ina quick typing mood, but what was ment to be said was this, Mobil 1 i have seen show its true side each and everytime, and i had a buddy dyno his itr and kept advancing hte igition and he was running some off brand shell oil, the bearings like up, why?? oil broke down that motor was fully built by endyne...and they even said off brand oil... beforehe blew the motor up we manged to make 378whp at only 14 psi, and we were goin up to 20.. thx.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahaha....i hope you know the same company your are calling brand(shell/ rotella) makes and is the only oil ferraris use.
I posted my opinion, little kid i've seen obx cams in 3 cars down here, two had crower cams, one had toda, they, were stage 3's and obx made +3 hp over the crowers and over +8 on the todas? give me a fucken break how do i not know what i'm talking about..lol!!
The motor issuse lets talk about that, because maybe i was just ina quick typing mood, but what was ment to be said was this, Mobil 1 i have seen show its true side each and everytime, and i had a buddy dyno his itr and kept advancing hte igition and he was running some off brand shell oil, the bearings like up, why?? oil broke down that motor was fully built by endyne...and they even said off brand oil... beforehe blew the motor up we manged to make 378whp at only 14 psi, and we were goin up to 20.. thx.</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahaha....i hope you know the same company your are calling brand(shell/ rotella) makes and is the only oil ferraris use.
You can play around with this test but will not ever have a conclusive result . The Amsoil does not use MoDTC " friction modifier " in the formula so once it has plated from the other oils the Amsoil gets a free ride . The thinnest oil measured in centistrokes @100c will win the HP test but will not determine which oil has best resistance to oxidation / tbn depletion / thermal shear stability and more ... much more.
Just because an oil makes more hp in one test does not mean it has the lowest coefficient of friction or will help keep an engine together at high rpm and when oil temps exceed 340F when said oil has 4k miles on it .
Just some food for thought .......
Just because an oil makes more hp in one test does not mean it has the lowest coefficient of friction or will help keep an engine together at high rpm and when oil temps exceed 340F when said oil has 4k miles on it .
Just some food for thought .......
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Sorry I haven't postedf on this sooner, I have been a little busy!
I will be making my donation ASAP.
Can't wait to see the results! A true unbiased test to compare oils, and see if they really can make a HP gain.
Truly an excellent contribution you are making! Hopefully you will get enough in donations to cover all or at least most of your costs!
If anyone else can donate even a buck or two that would be great! Whatever you can spare!
Good Luck!
I will be making my donation ASAP.
Can't wait to see the results! A true unbiased test to compare oils, and see if they really can make a HP gain.
Truly an excellent contribution you are making! Hopefully you will get enough in donations to cover all or at least most of your costs!
If anyone else can donate even a buck or two that would be great! Whatever you can spare!
Good Luck!
I have 3 filters from LudeManDan along with 6 from a friend that works at Honda and a PayPal donation from Gregory R. Espey. I was at the PRI show and found quite a few companies there that make synthetic oils. I'll be emailing them the link along with other companies to a new post on here (w/o the drama
) and see if any of them are willing to donate to the test and in return they can use the results for their own marketing.
) and see if any of them are willing to donate to the test and in return they can use the results for their own marketing.
[QUOTE=backpurge]I will be doing a non-biased test to determine what synthetic motor oil performs the best. We have an in-house Mustang MD-250-P chassis dynamometer that I will be using to dyno a 2002 Honda Civic Ex (mine). I dyno'd the car a year ago with 30,000 less miles at 85 whp (automatic) with regular motor oil.
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This is one of the reasons why I'm glad I joined HT. Thanks a lot, backpurge.
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This is one of the reasons why I'm glad I joined HT. Thanks a lot, backpurge.
thats me.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by backpurge »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have 3 filters from LudeManDan along with 6 from a friend that works at Honda and a PayPal donation from Gregory R. Espey. I was at the PRI show and found quite a few companies there that make synthetic oils. I'll be emailing them the link along with other companies to a new post on here (w/o the drama
) and see if any of them are willing to donate to the test and in return they can use the results for their own marketing. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by backpurge »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have 3 filters from LudeManDan along with 6 from a friend that works at Honda and a PayPal donation from Gregory R. Espey. I was at the PRI show and found quite a few companies there that make synthetic oils. I'll be emailing them the link along with other companies to a new post on here (w/o the drama
) and see if any of them are willing to donate to the test and in return they can use the results for their own marketing. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mmuller »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How about motorcycle oil?</TD></TR></TABLE>
John Force doesnt really use castrol either. He has a green colored oil poured out of castrol bottles it appears to be Kendall Motorcycle oil. Some friends saw this a few years ago. They claim the additive package may be less limited because of the motorcycle emission status and the fact that the oil withstands harsh transitions and rpm.
John Force doesnt really use castrol either. He has a green colored oil poured out of castrol bottles it appears to be Kendall Motorcycle oil. Some friends saw this a few years ago. They claim the additive package may be less limited because of the motorcycle emission status and the fact that the oil withstands harsh transitions and rpm.
Yeah i saw a thread on bobistheoilguy a while back which i cant find, that stated the higher additives contents of motorcycle oil as you say because of pretty much no emission standards.
I get access to different kinds of bike oils at work and that 1030 motul is calling my name. man..do those motorcycle internals look clean...
Wonder if there are any downsides of using this kind of oil on cars...
edit:
After researching a little, as per my readings i find that there is not all that much difference between motorcycle and car oils after all....
here is a good read about the matter:
http://www.xs11.com/stories/mcnoil94.htm
Modified by mmuller at 10:57 PM 12/5/2005
I get access to different kinds of bike oils at work and that 1030 motul is calling my name. man..do those motorcycle internals look clean...
Wonder if there are any downsides of using this kind of oil on cars...
edit:
After researching a little, as per my readings i find that there is not all that much difference between motorcycle and car oils after all....
here is a good read about the matter:
http://www.xs11.com/stories/mcnoil94.htm
Modified by mmuller at 10:57 PM 12/5/2005
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I get access to different kinds of bike oils at work and that 1030 motul is calling my name. man..do those motorcycle internals look clean...
Wonder if there are any downsides of using this kind of oil on cars...</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's expensive as fizzuck.
I get access to different kinds of bike oils at work and that 1030 motul is calling my name. man..do those motorcycle internals look clean...
Wonder if there are any downsides of using this kind of oil on cars...</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's expensive as fizzuck.
wow...maybe the hype about Mobil 1 is true....but i still dont know about running my car on the same oil for 10,000 miles...even though many dealerships (Benz Jag etc) say its fine to go that long with good oil
Doesn't the manual for '00-ish Hondas say every 7k? Every 10k seems like you'd have no oil left so it's a moot point, but 7k wouldn't make me nervous. Just change the filter regularly.
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I feel this all depends on how you drive your car, and the type of oil you use!
I personally change my oil EXCESSIVELY during the summer months do to the fact that I tend to drive my car rather hard!
By excessively I mean around every 1500 miles.
I personally change my oil EXCESSIVELY during the summer months do to the fact that I tend to drive my car rather hard!
By excessively I mean around every 1500 miles.


