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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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Is this true? I want to get my EM1 aligned and they're telling me in need to buy a camber kit. Answer. My car is moderately dropped somewhere like an inch on Koni full coilovers
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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no, not true.

They can adjust toe, which is the only thing they can adjust OE anyways.

No need for a camber kit.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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No need for a camber kit.
This is true, no need. Does he want want? well if you want your tires to last you the life they should, then the answer is do yourself a favor and get one. From experience i feel like it has paid off for itself.
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Old Mar 15, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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Take your car somewhere else. After dropping your civic, true enough, your camber will be out of spec, but more importantly your toe will be way out. Toe is the most, when out of spec, destructive tire angle to worry about. Go ahead and lower it. Then after lowering, go to front end shop/dealer and get an alignment asking them to not pay consideration of caster and camber angles but to adjust the rear and front toe. This will be very suffiecient. Many times have I seen someone drop their car, not get an alignement and smoke a set of tires or two. Then install a camber kit and get an alignment and think it was the camber correction that improved tire wear.

Last edited by KWayRacing; Mar 21, 2010 at 11:09 AM. Reason: Read EP not EM in original post.
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 04:10 AM
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theres no strut on that car...
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 04:30 AM
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Default Re: Dropped cars can't be aligned

Originally Posted by slammed_93_hatch

No need for a camber kit.
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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Default Re: Dropped cars can't be aligned

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theres no strut on that car...
Say WHAT?
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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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Take your car somewhere else. After dropping your civic, true enough, your camber will be out of spec, but more importantly your toe will be way out. Toe is the most, when out of spec, destructive tire angle to worry about. Go ahead and lower it. WHile doing so, make sure to pull the strut to knuckle joint towards the outside of the vehicle before tightening the strut to knuckle fasteners. That gives you the most positive camber. I have seen this alone reap 2 degree changes. Then after lowering, go to front end shop/dealer and get an alignment asking them to not pay consideration of caster and camber angles but to adjust the rear and front toe. This will be very suffiecient. Many times have I seen someone drop their car, not get an alignement and smoke a set of tires or two. Then install a camber kit and get an alignment and think it was the camber correction that improved tire wear.

not sure how to adjust my struts. so ill just take it somewhere that my toe will be corrected. of course toe angle is what kills tires not camber. considering though that a thrown off camber CAN/MAY throw of toe. so they do work hand in hand.

also if the inside of the tire is wearing ALOT faster than any other part of the tire, does this mean that the tire is kicked away from the engine or toward it?
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Default Re: Dropped cars can't be aligned

Originally Posted by mouab18c1
Say WHAT?
'88 - '00 Civics don't use struts, they use shocks.
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by raphael
Is this true? I want to get my EM1 aligned and they're telling me in need to buy a camber kit. Answer. My car is moderately dropped somewhere like an inch on Koni full coilovers
Nah you don't, but it might wear your tires quickly because of the tires angle. My tires were brand new and now theyre pretty worn on the inside camber. Raised a bit and it helped alot.
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Old Mar 18, 2010 | 10:32 PM
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Default Re: Dropped cars can't be aligned

OEM there is no camber adjustment. BUY A CAMBER KIT (at least for the front). The money it costs saves you X10 in tires.
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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If you do any sort of racing (auto x/drag/Circut) why not maximize your tire patch size on the road for better traction? A camber kit is like $65. (Ingalls) If you are running any sort of performance tire, that is close or less then the cost of ONE that will have accelerated wear if you do not align the camber. To me, it only makes sense to make your tire have as large of contact patch with the ground as possible for many reasons... traction and wear being high on the list.

My buddy didn't get a camber kit on his car and it was lowered quite a bit... Eventually his tires wore to the point where he had a blowout on the back right side and rolled his car on the freeway...

Quote -EF9Si-T
This is true, no need. Does he want want? well if you want your tires to last you the life they should, then the answer is do yourself a favor and get one. From experience i feel like it has paid off for itself.


Do yourself a favor, if you cannot make the adjustments that KWayRacing mentioned to get the camber alignment you need, pick up a camber kit.

Blaze
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Old Mar 19, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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Default Re: Dropped cars can't be aligned

Just got mine done with no camber kit. the first shop told me the same thing so i went somewere else and they did it.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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Default Re: Dropped cars can't be aligned

Well I don't X-cross or highway/street race. At all. Maybe is worth getting a camber kit though.
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Old Mar 23, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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Default Re: Dropped cars can't be aligned

for everyone screaming you need camber kits you all need to just take 2min and read this over: https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/no-you-do-not-need-camber-kits-2614449/
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