The difference in compression between B20B VS B20Z
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Re: B20B VS B20Z... The truth told, lets end the rumors (Bac91Da)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bac91Da »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you need any info on what engine mounts you need?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually...now that I think about it.
Can I reuse my stock Civic lower torque mounts and brackets or do I need to find these too?
’94-00 Integra LS/GSR/Type R front transmission mount bracket
’96-00 CRV, del-Sol VTEC driver’s side front lower engine mount bracket
Actually...now that I think about it.
Can I reuse my stock Civic lower torque mounts and brackets or do I need to find these too?
’94-00 Integra LS/GSR/Type R front transmission mount bracket
’96-00 CRV, del-Sol VTEC driver’s side front lower engine mount bracket
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Re: B20B VS B20Z... The truth told, lets end the rumors (Bac91Da)
i am sure your stock one will work but i dont see an issue without it, i have a friend with a setup like yours and he doesnt have his but then again he is not autox'n it.
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Re: B20B VS B20Z... The truth told, lets end the rumors (Bac91Da)
but i dont know why you would need it with a B20Z??? i have a B20Z in my da without one an i run the **** out of it and never had a prob along with my friend who has a B20z in his 99 civic ex and another friend has a b20z with a gsr head and he has had no probs. With a stock b20z its not like you have 170+ whp so i dont see the need.
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Re: B20B VS B20Z... The truth told, lets end the rumors (Bac91Da)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bac91Da »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that i know of all u need is the mounts you said why would u need an engine damper?
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No no...not a torque damper. I'm talking about the lower brackets that mount to the block, (ac pulley is mounted on this I believe) on the driver side and the tranny on the passenger side. Those attach to the two mounts below the frame rails. They're stock...just wondering if I can swap them over from my D-series to my B-series with no problems. Most-likely not a big issue...just curious.
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No no...not a torque damper. I'm talking about the lower brackets that mount to the block, (ac pulley is mounted on this I believe) on the driver side and the tranny on the passenger side. Those attach to the two mounts below the frame rails. They're stock...just wondering if I can swap them over from my D-series to my B-series with no problems. Most-likely not a big issue...just curious.
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Re: B20B VS B20Z... The truth told, lets end the rumors (gabebauman)
i am almost and i say almost positve that you need the bseries brackets like the 94 on integra but i will get back to you on that and find out for sure.
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Re: B20B VS B20Z... The truth told, lets end the rumors (Bac91Da)
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Thanks man.
Thanks man.
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Re: B20B VS B20Z... The truth told, lets end the rumors (Bac91Da)
is this what you wanted to know???? the rear engine mount can remain intact but you need to use the rear engine bracket from a 99-00 civic si which is mandatory. their are no compatible integra or del sol mounts for the swap; the left hand engine bracket must be replaced with a unit from the 99-00 civic si or 94-97 del sol Dohc vtec, the integra peices are to long. with the si or del sol bracket the rubber mount attached to the frame rail and the corresponding bracket may both be used again. The top trans mount as well as the bracket can also be reused, the front trans bracket can be sourced from any 94-01 integra, 99-00 civic si, or 94-97 Del solsDohc vtec. and as for the air conditioning you can use the front bracket from any of the cars just mentioned. The last two brackets will slide into corresponding rubber stopper mounts already underneath the frame. Its important that those original stopper mounts are reused. Hook up the left side mount first and then slide the rear engine bracket into place, before bolting on the trans side top mount. with all that done you can tighten up the front mounts. Hope that helped let me know of you need something else.
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Re: B20B VS B20Z... The truth told, lets end the rumors (Bac91Da)
Yeah...I already have the rear T mount and driver side timing belt mount bracket.
And no, I'll be removing my ps pump and looping the rack. My buddy just did that to his coupe and it feels good.
And no, I'll be removing my ps pump and looping the rack. My buddy just did that to his coupe and it feels good.
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Re: B20B VS B20Z... The truth told, lets end the rumors (gabebauman)
yeah i like no power steering as well, i took it off my da and my 91 CRX HF never came with it. Are you going to get stock 94-01 integra axles or you going to go with some upgraded ones?
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Re: B20B VS B20Z... The truth told, lets end the rumors (Bac91Da)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bac91Da »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you going to get stock 94-01 integra axles or you going to go with some upgraded ones?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Stock for now. Axles are a breeze to swap.
Stock for now. Axles are a breeze to swap.
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NICE! I have higher compression. Question though, if you were to take both the low and high compression blocks and put the same set of pistons into both. Would it make both blocks the same after?
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Hi, Im a noob to this site but not to the honda. But I was looking for a b20 engine for my da. And ran across this info. Might be useful to someone who is looking.\was at http://got-jdm.com
Of the two B20 engines the B20Z has more compression at 10.2:1 over the B20B's lower 8.8:1. This is because the B20Z has a flatter top piston when compared with the to the B20B's deeper dish. The lower compression B20B is more desirable for a bolt on supercharger or turbocharger kit because of this. If you wanted to run high compression with a B20B/Z there are no factory pistons that can do this, but any number of quality custom forged piston makers, such as JE, Aires or Wiseco can make a piston for the B20B/Z. This piston should be made with a dome volume to give about compression ratios from 11:1 for the street to 13:1 for race gas. With 11:1 pistons and a VTEC head mildly worked over, it can be possible to have a very impressive engine for very little money.
Did anyone purchase anything from these guys let me know thanks
Of the two B20 engines the B20Z has more compression at 10.2:1 over the B20B's lower 8.8:1. This is because the B20Z has a flatter top piston when compared with the to the B20B's deeper dish. The lower compression B20B is more desirable for a bolt on supercharger or turbocharger kit because of this. If you wanted to run high compression with a B20B/Z there are no factory pistons that can do this, but any number of quality custom forged piston makers, such as JE, Aires or Wiseco can make a piston for the B20B/Z. This piston should be made with a dome volume to give about compression ratios from 11:1 for the street to 13:1 for race gas. With 11:1 pistons and a VTEC head mildly worked over, it can be possible to have a very impressive engine for very little money.
Did anyone purchase anything from these guys let me know thanks
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Re: B20B VS B20Z... The truth told, lets end the rumors (TIMTEG)
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Of the two B20 engines the B20Z has more compression at 10.2:1 over the B20B's lower 8.8:1. This is because the B20Z has a flatter top piston when compared with the to the B20B's deeper dish.</TD></TR></TABLE>
B20Z and JDM B20B ('99+) have a 9.6:1 compression ratio, not 10.2:1, just so there's no bad info getting passed around.
Of the two B20 engines the B20Z has more compression at 10.2:1 over the B20B's lower 8.8:1. This is because the B20Z has a flatter top piston when compared with the to the B20B's deeper dish.</TD></TR></TABLE>
B20Z and JDM B20B ('99+) have a 9.6:1 compression ratio, not 10.2:1, just so there's no bad info getting passed around.
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Yeah thats what i thought i didnt think the compression was that high. With the compression that engine should be pushing around 180hp. Ok i have a other site for you guys. It dynos and and info on the b18 ls and the b20b and b20z with some stock ls maniford and gsr header.. and some other different combos. Its some good info if anyone is planning a swap.............http://hybrid.honda-perf.org/tech/b2...yno.html#dyno1
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re: The difference in compression between B20B VS B20Z
The 98 spec JDM B20b has a 8.8:1 C /R and is rated at 126hp and 133ft-lbs. witch is more toqure than the 2000 ITR.
The one question i have is, how is the performace when you but the LS head on the B20b Block?
give more hp but rob toqure?
obviously it will raise the C/R, but does it make it quicker?
The one question i have is, how is the performace when you but the LS head on the B20b Block?
give more hp but rob toqure?
obviously it will raise the C/R, but does it make it quicker?
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My friend has the most mysterious b20 engines of all. All it says on block b20
than says HMO cirlcled . Has p75 head , ls intake not giraffe style. Dont see any knock sensor. Only mods intake & gsr tranny , headers. Runs really fast keeps up with my brother in- laws k20 civic si four door.
than says HMO cirlcled . Has p75 head , ls intake not giraffe style. Dont see any knock sensor. Only mods intake & gsr tranny , headers. Runs really fast keeps up with my brother in- laws k20 civic si four door.
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re: The difference in compression between B20B VS B20Z
Nice thread, just wanted to pitch in. We just finished up my buddys b20z/si tranny swap. He bought a 99 b20z from advance for 900 bucks with a supposed 3 year warrenty (u must provide the vin# for the veichale its being put into). Not sure on the cams and stuff but I do remember the round black knock sensor and a big bobo intake mani with a box on top which we replaced with some jbweld and a throttle plate haha.
Ive heard the newer cams in a older b20b will give u 7hp (read it in a honda tuning mag) with boltons and a tune. Also someone stated they were doing a b20/vtec and was running the high comp phk pistons. Wont there be a piston to valve clearance issue with any cams bigger than stock b16 cams. heres some pics
Ive heard the newer cams in a older b20b will give u 7hp (read it in a honda tuning mag) with boltons and a tune. Also someone stated they were doing a b20/vtec and was running the high comp phk pistons. Wont there be a piston to valve clearance issue with any cams bigger than stock b16 cams. heres some pics
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^^^ i think it'll be alright, it's not advised to advance the intake cam really at all especially for an aftermarket cam in order to avoid p2v contact. damn i can't believe this thread is still alive.
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has anyone got a b20 from hmotors i have read alot of good things about them they have a 146Hp 133Trq 9.6 compression (99-00) for 750 dollars i just dont want to get a 8.8 compression for that price lol