What's the difference between say some Ground Control coilovers vs some Tein HAs?

 

GCs don't have shocks. They aren't coilovers, they're spring sleeves. Only dumb people call them "coilovers".

Tein HAs have a threaded shock body that the spring perch threads to adjust ride height. The GCs have a sleeve that grips the shock body in a very similar manner. IT cannot have threaded shock bodies so GCs and upscale adjustable shocks can be used. I personally have GCs with Koni Yellows. Both the Teins and the Konis require shock re valving when spring rates approach 600 lbs/in.

The advantage of the HAs is that they have an aluminum damper, which weighs less. This can significantly reduce unsprung weight if they are inverted (requires custom work/kit).

I'm pretty sure that answered your question.


Modified by GSpeedR at 6:55 PM 7/7/2003

 

yep. GCs are just sleeves with springs while REAL coilovers have the shock and springs with perches and such, they are ONE piece. coilover sleeves(GC's, dropzone, APC, maxspeed,) are not true coilovers.

I prefer springs over sleeves anyday

 

Tein's coil sleeves are not removable?

 

teins dont have sleeves... the shock itself is threaded for the perches

 

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true. also, true coilovers, the springs are designed to go with the strut.

 

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Yup, you can see some of the pics I took the other weekend of my suspension swap. Hopefully these clear that up:

http://www.netpath.net/~dkpeters/TEIN

I think they are great! The ride is so much cleaner with the TEIN HA's than it was with aftermarket (Koni Yellows) shocks and adjustable sleeves. The construction is so much more solid as well, with no chance of anything rattling and/or breaking loose.

HTH.

Dan P.

 

tein HA's are great. I ride with them a bit stiff though, i think its 6 up front and 4 in the rear. 16 being stiffest, 1 being softest. I like it, but i dont think my passengers do. haha.

 

Cool.. So why is the price difference so much... can a Ground Control and Koni Yellow combo be just as "good" as the Teins?

 

because they are not a tuned set, they are not test with each other(shock and spring) which a true coilover like tein is testing, they are on unit.

not to mention the shock can be fix if the shock is blow

 

Drive your car for a month on some GC sleeves.
Drive your car for a month on some Tein HAs.

You'll see the difference.

 

cool u got any i can borrow